"Girls are skipping school to avoid sharing gender neutral toilets with boys" - Mail on Sunday article

It is a bit off how women who don't like other women very much seem to run across women's loos that look like they came right out of Trainspotting or Hostel with quite remarkable frequency.

Uncanny.

@TequilaPilates

Yes of course, it's me. I'm the one making up things on this thread

Tequila, I think your argument on this thread has been there's no need to for single sex toilet provision because girls bully girls, and women make a terrible mess in the toilet sometimes

have I missed anything out?

There's only one individual making it up on this thread.

Do you use public toilets?

I work in a public facility, there are no staff toilets so I use public toilets five days a week.

The only times there are problems are when either elderly people or small children have accidents and these are always reported and cleaned up immediately.

I have seen terrible messes in women's toilets in two situations.

1 When I worked as a cleaner in a psychiatric hospital.

2 At motorway services back in the 80s (or London Gateway today which is a shithole for reasons that escape me)

historylover

Oh of course.

Or, you can't prove it because you've made it up.

@TequilaPilates

I don't really think I need to, that's been the message on all of your posts.

Are you joking? You've spent the entire time here advocating for the removal of single sex spaces and forcing young girls to share with boys.

Where have I said that? Please show me.

I’m over 60 and have travelled quite widely, often using public loos when I have needed to. I think that I can honestly say that, yes, I have found some revolting ones, but these have been very few.

There is no way that I would use a “unisex” or “gender neutral” public toilet. I do share the toilet at home with men, but they are DH and my adult DSs and they are all clean, tidy and they wash their hands!

Frankly, some disgusting people who have no manners

none of the women I work with exhibit the behaviour you seem to be describing. in any of the jobs I've worked in, or any of the many branches I've visited

which leaves me rather and a little concerned by your description of your work loos

Why are you on this thread Tequila? Is it just to tell women how disgusting we all are? If you think that mixed sex toilets in school are bad, why are you arguing with all the people who agree with you?

@TequilaPilates

Are you joking? You've spent the entire time here advocating for the removal of single sex spaces and forcing young girls to share with boys.

and fuck knows who you're working with too.

Frankly, some disgusting people who have no manners.

trying to use a boy's toilet whilst wearing a skirt/dress? It's just a recipe for bullying and abuse.

Then that's what needs to be tackled! Not shoving him in with the girls and hoping they can cope with it (after all, as has been mentioned, girls bully too).

I went to a few schools - the number of times at primary we'd run and hide in the girls to avoid the boys (even though they were freezing cold external blocks). Or at secondary, yes, I was in awe of the 6th formers, and would avoid the toilet if there was a big group of 5th formers in there because I didn't want to draw their attention, but if it had been a mixed group I would have never gone in at all!

tequila I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the benefit is to women and girls of letting males into our toilets.

When have I argued for males to be let into our toilets? As I'm not I don't see why I need to put forward any arguments in favour of that happening.

In fact, if you see my posts you'll see that I've said I am against single sex toilets being re designated into mixed sex toilets so I'll wait for you to show where I've said any different.

I'm a bit worried about Tequila, finding public toilets dirty, disgusting places. in my experience they are more often than not perfectly serviceable for the task in hand

you seem to be a very glass half empty type of person

and fuck knows who you're working with too.

You may deflect, you may project but I think it's time you considered that when it comes to piss, used san-pro and shit-ridden loos that you regularly come into contact with, you are the common denominator?

As I said, it must be the people who never notice it, because they obviously consider it normal, who are the perpetrators.

If I was the only person to have encountered it then fair enough but you only have to ask other women to realise that this is a common occurrence.

tequila I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the benefit is to women and girls of letting males into our toilets.

And also why you think girls in the UK are deserving of a standard of toilet facilities in schools which Unicef says fails to offer even a basic standard of hygiene and sanitation.

I'm now picturing Tequila wading through a mountain of discarded sanpro, struggling through long grass or field of corn style.

Where on earth does this person live?

yes, frequently. in my experience of both public and work toilets, you're talking complete bobbins Tequila

The people talking bobbins are the ones denying what every other person knows is the truth - public toilets are very often dirty, disgusting places. You carry on denying it. It just makes you look silly.

Hth

@TequilaPilates we already know that mixed sex changing rooms put women/girls at higher risk of sexual assault so why the hell would any woman in her right mind agree to mixed sex toilets?

Evidence here - www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

“...two thirds of all sexual attacks at leisure centres and public swimming pools take place in unisex changing rooms.

Of 134 complaints over 2017-2018, 120 reported incidents took place in gender-neutral changing rooms and just 14 were in single-sex changing areas.”

@TequilaPilates

I think I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen a public bathroom in the state you've described, are you sure your not accidentally going into the males?

There was an article in, I think, the Times about people who have ‘changed sex’ and now regret it. This current insanity is going to end in lawyers making £millions