Self id to be kicked into the long grass

Really good news. A Minister seemingly willing to put her head above the parapet and be identified as GC.

We have quite a few people to thank, including Andrew Gilligan, who is now an adviser to the PM, newspapers who gave space to journalists sceptical of genderism, and a number of brave and articulate women. And Mumsnet, who provided an important platform when so many would not.

There is a lot to row back. But this a sign that the tide is turning. There are some important court cases to be won. More voices, including detransitioners (which the MOS is also covering) and widows to be heard. Transgenderism impacts on women. People may have dysphoria but hopefully the blind #nodebate adoption of TWAW will be seen for what it is. Misogyny and an unwillingness to listen to women or to consider their needs.

Think this is really positive news. But as pp have said, many companies and organisations have been acting as if it was already law so we have to be vigilant. God my head hurts at how many things have changed in the last few years and how we're having to fight on so many fronts...

It's a good start. Happened here in NZ earlier this year. But too little, too late IMHO.

This. Self ID as law died the day a woman wore a mankini to the hamsted heath men's pool. It could never have got through once it got any serious attention.

But self ID is (as PPs have said) policy and practice for a lot of public bodies and private companies. That law will be back once women's rights lie dead from a thousand tiny cuts.

We are not winning yet, but it's turning. Pull.

I'm confused.
"the Secretary of State's belief that adults should be given full freedom to decide how they want to live their lives and should not face barriers to doing so"

• Does this not still sound like self-id for adults is on the table? Full freedom to decide, No barriers = getting rid of what is currently required for a GRC?? The majority of the article was about concerns for children and their medicalisation. Which the reforms of the GRA were nothing to do with. Not directly anyway. I'm confused about this article.

The Tories would never have implemented this anyway. Their voters would hate it.

She disagrees with the growing numbers of young children transitioning. Wants it stopped.

Someone who is speakibg sense in all the dangerous madness. All these poor kids.

Its heart-breaking

Thank you Liz Truss. It may only appear small step but she has been much braver than any other cabinet member to date.

I’m also in Scotland and I worry that it will make the SNP even more determined to go down that route as they are so desperate to appear different to the English.

It's delayed probably until November, that month keeps coming up.

Excellent news, in no small part thanks to this board

This is electioneering.

It's dead until after the next GE.

But long grass?

That depends on when the next GE is, and who wins it.

As it stands a GE is likely very soon and there is no guarantee over who will win. Polling suggests the Tories but that's not definite.

A change in government could see self ID resurrected immediately.

Its only delayed, as a low priority. Welcome news but its ready to be resurrected another minister or government.

I hope its a misprint that kids as young as 3 can get hormone blockers, but you never know these days.

This might be the only thing liz truss has ever done that I agree with!

Trouble is this is just the tip of the iceberg. Will the DfE stop funding all these toxic organisations going into schools and grooming children? Will they stop the EHRC guidelines? How will this affect the girl guides with their safeguarding breaching policies?
While I'm pleased about this, so much damage has happened on their watch in the last few years, they need to make real efforts to put that right - especially in relation to children.

Sounds promising but as I'm in Scotland I worry that the SNP will double down on their plans and use this as an example of how we are so much more progressive than the nasty English

Good. Large readership equals more exposure.

More sunlight.

If the Fail On Sunday says it, can it be true?

Thank goodness!

It's a good start. Happened here in NZ earlier this year. But too little, too late IMHO. We have all the issues UK has - trans women in rape and DV refuges, (women who object to this are found somewhere else to go), in prisons etc.

Our govt are looking to fund the expense of changing birth certs, driver's licences etc. This was one of the main arguments TRA's used for self I.D.
Funnily enough the cost is only around $400 which in the scheme of things is hardly life threatening.

Lots of unnamed sources.

On the plus side it is a piece by the Political Editor of the Mail on Sunday. So it has weight.

And clearly self-ID is already in the long grass. The GEO were supposed to report back from the GRA Consultation in Spring 2019. They've had a year since the consultation closed. And done precisely zero.

This is good news.

Wonderful.

🥂 thank goodness for that. Now:

• Truss needs to say why it’s a dangerous and crap idea; and
• order an immediate review into the EHRC guidance on the application of the Equality Act to single-sex provisions.