Sky: Hundreds of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex

If being 'true trans' means having a soul born in the opposite sex body, then the only way to be true trans is for it to be a religious experience so it should be without the realms of the medical industry

Well, that’s essentially how MP Layla Moran describes it. She can ‘see souls’ so knows when someone’s transgender.

They now have a record number of referrals and see 3,200% more patients than they did 10 years ago - with the increase for girls up by 5,337%. With referrals at a record high, it suggests cases of detransition will rise too.

I found this extract from the Sky report very illuminating. Surely the GIDS at The Tavistock must have considered why there was such a steep rise in numbers and that some of them were possibly people who were experiencing something else alongside/other than gender dysphoria?

Douglas Murray, author of The Madness of Crowds, on Twitter:

twitter.com/DouglasKMurray/status/1180906094677430273

"Imagine if a wide-ranging, thoughtful and fearless public discussion had been encouraged before this stage."

I used to teach in Sixth Form and I had a trans student in my tutor group who was born female and transitioned to male by having a double mastectomy at 18 1/2 after 3 years of counselling and with full parental support and within 9 months of surgery was crying and saying life was ruined and wanted to be female again. More counselling and then upset she did not have boobs anymore and wanted further surgery. Through this period of time was claiming to be suicidal too. The mother came to parents evening and said she was worried about her child's grades in all subjects. I told her I was actually more worried about her child taking her own life.

The more people who transition will mean more will want to detranistion. That’s just basic logic but some loons on the fringe think this never happens

how amazing is Charlie?
She is stunning and brave. In the literal way.

sue the shit out of Mermaids and the Tavistock? I'd definitely contribute to that crowdfunder

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Souls? Justification by souls?

If being 'true trans' means having a soul born in the opposite sex body, then the only way to be true trans is for it to be a religious experience so it should be without the realms of the medical industry.

If it means having gender dysphoria, then it should include these women who are detransitioning because despite still having gender dysphoria, they've discovered the lie that hormones and surgery is the answer.

John Hopkins stopped performing "sex change" surgery because the outcomes were so poor, dysphoria was not fixed and suicide attempts increased. This was known about in the 1980s and yet we've returned to experiments but this time on children as well.

Exactly! Clearly these young people were not actually trans, but genuinely thought at the time that they were. Hence all young people should be protected from irreversible treatment.

I noticed the cries of 'not true trans' on twitter.

And that’s the fucking point. These poor people have damaged or mutilated their bodies because they believed that they were trans. Often whilst still of an age where they are believed to be too young to understand the damage that smoking a cigarette could do.

And then it turns out that they are not trans after all. As stated by the trans activists.

Maybe this is evidence that we need to stop all treatment for under 18s until we have a way of identifying the “true trans”. As opposed to those who are gender non conforming, gay, autistic or just finding puberty difficult. (I would have fitted nicely into the last group.)

And the reason the Tavi says they "rarely see" regret is that they do not follow up their patients when they leave the service. Duh!!

Young people over 18 are even more vulnerable than younger ones as there is even less mental health evaluation in adult gender services.

How sad. It’s like a fashion trend but surgery is permanent!!

I noticed the cries of 'not true trans' on twitter.

Have they explained how anyone can tell the difference between true trans and not true trans?

I noticed the cries of 'not true trans' on twitter.

It's strange though, I thought that nobody would pretend to be trans and that was just a lie made up by t**fs.

Oh wait, it's a woman we're talking about. It all makes sense now.

Sorry to have used the word ‘naïve’ above I meant it in the sense of innocent and (absolutely understandably) trusting. There’s no way any child or young person could be, or should have to be, clued up enough or powerful and together enough to reject the advice of all these professional organisations and authority figures claiming to have their interests at heart, that should have been safeguarding them.

Well done Charlie.

This is fantastic exposure. I've a lump in my throat.

Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum.

Only a cult freaks out and shuns cult leavers

Exactly.

So unless Stonewall. Mermaids, the NHS, the NSPCC and all the rest of the wokerati that claim to give a fuck about young people and are all paid to support them, start swiftly and massively bigging up this new charity in the interests of helping this under-served, unsupported group of desisting and detransitioned young people,

• if they don’t welcome this group and support them- then we absolutely know we are dealing with a political movement about promoting men’s sexual entitlement and that will mean that these organisations will be saying that they are absolutely fine with turning naïve kids’ bodies into collateral damage for political propaganda purposes.

I would be so happy to be shown that all of these years on here we have all have been wrong about all this and that these groups are genuinely all out there working hard for the interests of children and young people.

Meanwhile the bbc are all over a trans opera singer...

*Lorimer runs a private practice called Gender Care.

Also works for the NHS Gender Identity Clinic at Charing Cross as a consultant psychiatrist.*

Isn't that a huge and obvious conflict of interest?

There's a patreon for the charity!

And bloody hell govt, have you noticed the now normal need to hold secret fucking meetings in the UK? In 2019.

Which group is it exclusively and always involved?

Very ready any time to contribute to a crowdfunder for a detransitioner to sue, as I'm scared stiff about what the future holds about what the extent of the damage may be. Not just discovering the real shattering loss of fertility and childbearing which often hits women hard in their 30s, but how many will be left with chronic illnesses, brittle bones, struggling to earn a living, and that's without the emotional struggles of hair loss and all the rest of it. Some may well need major compensation pay outs to have a chance at getting through their adult lives.

It the political TRA lobby is really stupid enough to picket and scream abuse at people concerned over detransitioners and their needs then that will finish off any credibility left. Only a cult freaks out and shuns cult leavers.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they tried to protest it. They won't frame it as "we hate detransitioners" as that sounds bad. They'll say something like "these people are transphobes who were never really trans and this is a front to attack trans people"

The protests and violent threats were never that tactical. The TRAs are just angry bullies who react to anything that challenges them with a tantrum