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The Detransition Advocacy Network. The first organisation to support women who have stopped transitioning.

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DJLippy · 04/10/2019 21:00

Exciting developments!

We are a group of detransitioners and desisters who have either decided not to transition or have stopped transitioning. Currently, there are no organized places for us to go for support.

We've started an advocacy charity to support people like us. Our aims (for now) are simple and will be built open over the next few weeks.

  • Build a support network.
  • Connect detransitioners.
  • Record our numbers.
  • Provide resources from professionals covering legal and medical advice.

We are officially launching our charity in Manchester on the 30th November.

You can follow us on Twitter @DetransAdNet

www.patreon.com/detransadvocacynetwork

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WarriorN · 08/04/2021 14:25

@ DetransAdv is the Twitter handle

WarriorN · 08/04/2021 14:24

Twitter acc is still there, I know they were looking for people to help mod / run it at one point. Not much posted since the end of last year.

EdgeOfACoin · 08/04/2021 13:39

@lionheart

Twitter account suspended already.
Well that explains why they haven't been Tweeting lately Confused
lionheart · 08/04/2021 12:18

Twitter account suspended already.

R0wantrees · 08/04/2021 07:45

Elie and Nele, who created 'Post Trans' have published a booklet, "Gender Detransition a path towards self acceptance"

It can be downloaded from their website:
post-trans.com/Detransition-Booklet

and is distributed in UK (postage cost only) by Transgender Trend:
www.transgendertrend.com/post-trans-gender-detransition-booklet/

EdgeOfACoin · 08/04/2021 05:42

This is an old thread but I'm bumping just because I haven't seen much from this group in a while.

From what I can see, it's been very quiet since November 2020. Its website didn't say anything about the Keira Bell case or Detrans Awareness Day.

Is it still going strong?

Nlds · 25/11/2019 23:11

The subject is currently being discussedon BBC2 Newsnight.

The increase of Gender Dysphoria referrals in children is very much explained by girls wanting to be boys. The Detransition Advocacy network and many commentators have a consensus that there are commonalities of 1) autistic females 2) overwhelmingly lesbian 3) sexual abuse often present. Other commonaility is disappointment that their dysphoria does not go away with the medical, surgical or clothes/lifestyle transitions.

My heart is hurting and the NHS is fundamentally failing these girls and young women.

NonnyMouse1337 · 28/10/2019 18:42

Thank you for the explanation, MoleSmokes. I did eventually start a separate thread. Will see if it's been condemned to the pits of the Petitions board. :)

MoleSmokes · 28/10/2019 18:39

NonnyMouse Mumsnet confine Petitions to that locked filing cabinet in the basement guarded by a Leopard:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard

However, when you have posted there, you can flag it up to FWR regulars by posting on this thread and linking to it:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3645590-Feminist-petition-news

Mumsnet seem to be OK with this Smile

NonnyMouse1337 · 22/10/2019 16:25

Are we allowed to post petitions? There's a one by this organisation that I've come across.

Smallblanket · 14/10/2019 19:29

Hi AspieMum - I'll pm you tomorrow.

AspieTransMum2 · 14/10/2019 17:07

thanks for this information. I have had a look at their website and it does look useful, especially for parents of teenagers. My problem is that my 'child' is now 26 and in the eyes of the law an adult. Whilst I certainly don't want to rule 'his' life as somebody with Aspergers I feel that 'he' is not emotionally equipped to deal with all this and he has no-one else who seems to be taking all this as seriously as it should be taken.

AspieTransMum2 · 14/10/2019 16:53

Thanks for reaching out Smallblanket - I can only say that I am very grateful that the waiting list is so long (in my area at least). My 'son' (who insists on being referred to in the masculine even though, biologically is still female) has been told it's 18 months by his GP but believes that according to the internet it's more like 3 years.

I'm hoping that this will give 'him' time to really think things through.
I was saddened to read in the Detransition Advocacy Network news article:
news.ntd.com/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-reverse-transition-says-detransitioned-woman_388928
(where I first heard of them) that so many, especially ftm who are on the spectrum, who go through these procedures are still suffering from dysphoria and are no happier than before they went through it all. I must admit that I've had far too many sleepless nights worrying about the consequences of all this on my 'child' and learning all this about detransitioning isn't helping, even though I do feel it's better to know than not know! This is not easy to go through as a parent and if you would like to private message me I'd be happy to chat...

joyfullittlehippo · 13/10/2019 19:19

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NonnyMouse1337 · 13/10/2019 19:19

I think all of the major autism organisations and various Facebook groups etc have bought into the gender ideology and are very pro trans, non-binary and queer identities.
Since autistic people are very likely to be into these sort of identities, it's very difficult to find openly gender critical groups.

I push a lot of gender critical points in a subtle manner in the autism groups I am in when I can but it feels like a lost cause at times. Confused
I hope you find like minded support for parents dealing with this sort of situation.

AllTheNameAreTakenEvenThisOne · 13/10/2019 19:14

As far as I know NAS are woke, I think. (Would love to be proved wrong, but this was my impression).

AspieTransMum2 · 13/10/2019 19:09

Thanks Allthenames...
I was looking for a way, other than Twitter, which I don't use to contact Charlie but maybe what I really need is to talk with other mums of older autistic people who want to or have transitioned (?) I truly believe that it's help with the difficulties of autism that causes so many problems for these vulnerable people. Once that has been addressed, if they still want to transition then I'm happy to support!

I wonder if anyone is talking with The National Autistic Society about this - although I must admit we didn't find them particularly helpful in our area...

truthisarevolutionaryact · 13/10/2019 19:03

AspieTransMum2
Just in case you're not already aware, Transgender Trend is a very good support group for parents: www.transgendertrend.com/

Aspley · 13/10/2019 18:57

Stonewall have plenty of cash. Such a shame they leave detransitioners in the cold.

AllTheNameAreTakenEvenThisOne · 13/10/2019 16:43

@AspieTransMum2 you can contact Charlie on Twitter at @charlie_sci

Or the Detransition Advocacy Network at @DetransAdNet

I think Charlie's been innundated though, so don't be disparaged if she doesn't reply immediately.

There's a message on @DetransAdNet saying:
Thank you for reaching out to us, and please be patient if we don't reply to your DM's / email (though feel free to send your message again if you don't hear from us before then)
and I think I saw similar on her personal account too.

Smallblanket · 13/10/2019 16:35

AspieTransMum

I am in the same position with my Aspie DD age 21. And have a very similar attitude to you. My biggest problem is on what planet is it seen to be a good thing that such a vulnerable disadvantaged group ( young people with autism and comorbid mental health problems) should undergo surgical and chemical "correction", with unknown long term consequences.

And I too am very worried that professionals at the gender clinics have no choice but to encourage them down this route, or even worse blindly believe there is no alternative.

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/10/2019 15:59

Brilliant. Will support any way I can - with no political will, purely because this is a group of suffering and vulnerable people who deserve all the help society can give them, who have just cause to be hurt and angry and want answers, and should not have to hide or deal with TRA bile just because their experiences are 'inconvenient' to the trans community narrative.

AspieTransMum2 · 13/10/2019 15:36

I'm the mother of a 26 year old daughter who has Aspergers and is on the waiting list to see a Consultant in the UK with a view to transitioning gender. I do not have a problem with gender transition per se, I do, however, have a problem when my 'child' is being allowed and encouraged to go down this path by professionals who are supposed to have her best interests at heart but are doing nothing to help her understand why she dislikes her gender so much. She is also scared of socialising yet feels desperately lonely and I really can't help but think marginalising herself even more is going to make socialising any easier for herself. I'm really not trying to control this, just help my beloved daughter but I'm being told to 'back off' by anyone who is allegedly supporting her.

I was delighted to read of The Detransition Advocacy Network in the UK and deeply saddened to think that this is needed. If anyone knows how to contact Charlie Evans, and or The Network. please could they pass on my details to them as I would love to find out more. I need to speak to others in my position. Many thanks.

Goannaforanna · 10/10/2019 00:08

I think it would be worth some academic researchers connecting with this group to undertake some formal research.