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Transgender manager sues after botched op costs him his leg

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Yeahnahyeah · 03/10/2019 21:06

I could weep.

city-press.news24.com/News/transgender-manager-sues-after-botched-op-costs-him-his-leg-20191001

4th Wave Now are also following botched surgeries by a different doctor, this one in the U.S.

4thwavenow.com/2019/08/26/catching-up-with-renowned-phalloplasty-surgeon-dr-curtis-crane/

It appears botched phalloplasties are the norm, not the exception. How could they not be? It is such a brutal proceedure.

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Underhisrs · 04/10/2019 15:26

Fuck the analogy to breast cancer.
I had breast cancer. I was told I didn’t have breast cancer. The surgeon told me to smile when he gave me this news. I wasn’t happy enough for him.

He was wrong and a female surgeon
gave me the single mastectomy that saved my life. I had to argue for a second proventative mastectomy. I got it but talking to my breast nurse it would have been refused now as NICE guidelines have changed/are tighter.

A mastectomy completely alters your body. I can’t lift as much as I could. I can’t push as well. My back curves forwards more. I can’t carry. I’m weaker.

NeedChoos · 04/10/2019 15:19

Don’t you mean “gender confirmation surgery”...more fluffy bunny language to hide the truth that it’s going to leave some permanently altered and in need to medical support for the rest of their lives. If it goes wrong which seems to be a high percentage then they will be left with an unsatisfactory quality of life.

zafferana · 04/10/2019 15:14

No one is born in the 'wrong body'.

'Gender reassignment' surgery is mutiliation.

NeedChoos · 04/10/2019 15:11

What gets on my tits... is this screaming about rights. No it’s not a fucking right.

It’s a publicly funded health service with finite resources that has to service the whole country as effectively as possible. Shut up about muh rightz...and campaign for properly funded trans healthcare that is clinically led. So shit like this poor fucker who lost his LEG ffs doesn’t happen.

Muh rightz gets right on my fucking nerves. Stop sponging off everyone else and do your own fucking dirty work. Create your own infrastructure funded from your own campaigning not every other fuckers.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 04/10/2019 15:08

It's not top surgery - it's a double mastectomy. Maybe not as involved as for breast cancer, there won't be loss of the muscle mass, for instance, but, it is still a big operation that needs drains and can permanently affect your shoulder function.

Oh, and sometimes your nipple rots off.

SarahTancredi · 04/10/2019 15:04

I don’t know what’s worse - that there are people out there who believe that ‘top’ surgery for a trans woman should trump cancer surgery, or that there are people who are so proud of this vile opinion that they are willing to publicise it on the internet!

Women dont even get san pro in prison or custody when they need it. Men get surgery in prison to transition. Yeah so fuckimg deprived

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2019 14:59

Ohh those silly, selfish women, with their frivolous and trivial cancer - how very dare they think that their life-saving surgery should be more important than a trans woman getting their implants? For shame, ladies.

I don’t know what’s worse - that there are people out there who believe that ‘top’ surgery for a trans woman should trump cancer surgery, or that there are people who are so proud of this vile opinion that they are willing to publicise it on the internet!

Contraceptionismyfriend · 04/10/2019 14:51

Calling it top and bottom surgery sounds so whimsical and easy.
No wonder they're surprised when it all goes to shit.

NeedChoos · 04/10/2019 14:48

It is according to Buck. It so necessary, it should be of at least the same priority as breast cancer surgery.

mobile.twitter.com/BuckAngel

Transgender manager sues after botched op costs him his leg
OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 04/10/2019 14:19

That's a really good (and sad...tragic, in fact) point Sarah.

SarahTancredi · 04/10/2019 13:56

If course now though wendy need to remember that kids moving down this path now, the future recipients of these surgeries , well if they have been on the blockers the standard surgery is not possible for the mtf surgery. They do not have the material required. The alternatives are experimental.

having never gone through puberty so dont even know what an orgasm is or have even had one, will they likely wont have any firm.of sexual feeling.

Articles /info.like that is meaningless to them because it's not relevant at all.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 04/10/2019 13:49

It was in a study I read.

www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(12)01560-6/fulltext

Contraceptionismyfriend · 04/10/2019 13:47

Are the transwomen claiming they're orgasming the same ones claiming they're having periods?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 04/10/2019 13:38

Couldn’t they at least save the arm by using the breast tissue?

I think it's to do with the amount / sensitivity of nerves needed? Maybe there aren't enough in the breasts? Or it's the wrong texture (that's the wrong word but I can't quite think what I mean)?

Quite, Arnold, which is why I was careful to note that this is what has been self-reported. Who knows what levels of delusion / powerful wishful thinking are going into their definition of orgasm?

SarahTancredi · 04/10/2019 13:28

It makes no sense at all does it . That there would be that much feeling.

How many women who had birth injuries and how many men who were circumcised have suffered from loss of sensation. And these are people with stuff where it's supposed to be.

So how when you tamper with things so dramatically and with stuff taken from somewhere else where feeling or being an organ fir sexual purposes was not the main.function, could it be in any way comparable.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 04/10/2019 13:24

This is horrific. Poor poor person.

The thought occurred to me though - maybe too macabre to write but I am going to.

Why do they remove breasts and discard that body tissue, when later on they are going to permanently remove the forearm skin to create a fake penis? Couldn’t they at least save the arm by using the breast tissue?

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 04/10/2019 13:08

I think you'd have to first define what you mean by 'orgasm'. Obviously a transwoman who had had their testicles removed isn't orgasming in the traditional male sense of ejaculating. And equally obviously they aren't experiencing the vaginal contractions associated with orgasm in the traditional female sense. So what exactly do they mean by 'orgasm'?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 04/10/2019 13:04

I understand transwomen with neovaginas have reported achieving orgasm in follow-up studies. No idea for reconstructed phalluses.

JocastaJones · 04/10/2019 12:59

Apparently so as tissue is retained and used to create a clitoris or part of the penis. Personally I’d be a bit suspicious.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 04/10/2019 12:52

Is it true there's no feeling?
Are either of the mutilated faux genitals capable of creating an orgasm?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 04/10/2019 12:49

Co-incidentally both procedures are only carried out on one sex. Can you guess which?

To be fair RuffleCrow, some transwomen have had neovaginas constructed which also are subject to complications: prolapse, stenosis, infections etc. And all this so that suicideal ideation can increase after surgical transition.

It's almost as if mutilating a healthy body to treat a psychological condition is a bad idea...

Rachelover60 · 04/10/2019 12:47

That is so horrible. I do not understand why anyone would subject themselves to totally unnecessary surgery which is very dangerous. That person is not the only one.

FadingStar · 04/10/2019 12:41

Horrendous. I hope young people take notice of this..I fear they see taking medication for life and mutilating surgery almost as nothing.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/10/2019 12:37

It's obviously a mental illness. People feel they are in the wrong body. I hope one day there will be medicine to treat it, like we medicate other mental disorders. Combined with therapy of course.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 04/10/2019 12:36

It's almost as if this is all completely unnatural.

How dare science not conform to their demands.