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BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz

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GrimDamnFanjo · 03/10/2019 14:22

Online if you want to take it. You translate the drag phrase.
How nice to see that those putting it together didn't think that "fishy" meaning a very feminine drag queen may be offensive....

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Campervan69 · 03/10/2019 23:26

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Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:24

Being feminine is positive - do you disagree?

Ereshkigal · 03/10/2019 23:24

Fishy meaning vaginas smell of fish is misogyny.

Ereshkigal · 03/10/2019 23:23

How has it been given a positive meaning?

Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:22

Words change meaning over time, we can't let the origins of words dictate how we use them. We dictate the meaning of words by how we use them - language is adaptive. If we continue to use a word in a negative way then we are re-enforcing those negative connotations and that is our fault.

It is not the fault of people who take that word and give it positive meaning instead. We have the opportunity to embrace the positive meanings. It's up to us to take that opportunity.

Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:18

Then*

Quaffy · 03/10/2019 23:18

There's a big difference between smelling like fish, and being fishy

Yes, but the origin of the use of “fishy” as a descriptor seems to be the supposed smell of vaginas. I am obviously more bothered about climate change and the other things in your post but that doesn’t change the fact this term has its origins in misogyny.

Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:18

To me cheesy is unfashionable and cringy. But if you want to use that word to mean a masculine drag king the you do you. It isn't hurting anyone.

DryHeave · 03/10/2019 23:15

Does “cheesy” mean a very male
Drag King?

Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:13

That*

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 03/10/2019 23:12

Yeah. Massive difference.

Did you call your mum Mac?

I'm surprised you're back so soon because thst was helluva to do list.

SadlyMissTaken · 03/10/2019 23:11

I've only seen drag live once. Drag bingo in Hackney. The guy in drag bitched about Victoria Beckham. It was spectacularly unfunny and not witty at all. Just disturbingly malicious. He came across as someone who hated women.

Ereshkigal · 03/10/2019 23:04

Oh, huge.

Mac1990 · 03/10/2019 23:02

There's a big difference between smelling like fish, and being fishy.

Ereshkigal · 03/10/2019 22:57

"My mum remembers how hard it was for gay drag artistes in her day and is happy to be compared to fish to make their modern counterparts feel at home"

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 03/10/2019 22:53

Personally I have ten quid on, 'actually my mum loves being called fish so much she changed her name to Fishy McHaddock'.

Any other takers?

testing987654321 · 03/10/2019 22:53

So fishy in drag is positive. nah.

'Gee, you smell like fish!’'
Why thank you so kindly’

Precisely.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 22:51

Better than smelling like a dick I suppose...

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 03/10/2019 22:50

All those who don't think it is offensive, call your mums and ask them if they would mind if someone said they smelled of fish because they have a vagina that smells of fish.

We'll wait.

Campervan69 · 03/10/2019 22:50

Who is this uneducated fool above? The quality, spelling and grammar of mumsnet feminist board ain't what it used to be.

I've had several shandies this evening and can still engage spellcheck ffs

Ereshkigal · 03/10/2019 22:49

Did some sort of klaxon go off?

Campervan69 · 03/10/2019 22:47

Just popping in to identify as offended that you are offended that we are offended.

Yeah and BBC. Fishy is disgusting. So many gay men calling lesbians this. Nasty.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 03/10/2019 22:47

Climate change, nuclear security, biorisk reduction, positively shaping the development of artificial intelligent, improving health in poorer countries, and Promoting peace and international coordination to name a few.

Honestly, you go. We can hold the fort here. I think all these things will benefit from your input. Just as this thread has.

Sp2000 · 03/10/2019 22:47

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/10/2019 22:47

So fishy in drag is positive. nah.

‘Gee, you smell like fish!’
‘Why thank you so kindly’

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