BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz

We were chatting about this show at work the other day.

One colleague said that although he didn't like drag queens (he is gay and reckoned that a lot of gay men don't, and find them a bit scary) there was one act he loves on that he's seen on TV and that 'she' was brilliant.

He showed me a clip of her singing and dancing on YouTube. It was actually a woman (of the Bette Midler 'show stopper' variety).

Definitions of feminism:

The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes (Oxford English Dictionary).

An organised effort to give women the same economic, social and political rights as men. (Cambridge dictionary).

1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests (Merriam Webster).

Feminism is the belief and aim that women should have the same rights, power, and opportunities as men. (Collins dictionary).

Hope that helps, @Mac1990.

Woke colleagues

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Work colleagues 😆

It was used at my school about girls by boys so homophobic it'd make your toes curl. It was disgustingly misogynistic when they used it and it's disgustingly misogynistic when used by gay men too. The common denominator here is men using a derogatory term about women. Who are the people feminism is for, not men. Jaysus it's like talking to a toddler.

FYI - Feminism is not for women only. It's is about equality between all genders

You’ve overplayed your hand there

FYI - Feminism is not for women only. It's is about equality between all genders.

Now you're being silly.

of course it is a revolting insult. I know of straight men that have used it and think it is hilarious so it is not just gay men.

The problem queer identity fools have is they are so slavishly adoring of all things queer they can't imagine that there are things they don't know or understand about life.

& why aren’t fish called woman-y? Just musing

Yes, indeed some women have beautiful bodies and are agile and graceful creatures. Like everyone knows many fish are.

I've had 52,612 PMs making fun of you.

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That's nice. My budgie thinks you're a banana sundae. I blame the cuttlefi...millet.

Just going back to that definition from the RuPaul wiki..."Although the term is considered to be a compliment among Drag Queens, it is often considered to be an insult among non-drag women."

Or "women", as we're still commonly known.

Excellent post Bob.

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We live in an age of rampant presentism, but the future will surely look upon our faults with the usual mix of amusement and disgust we reserve for the past and its racism, misogyny, flares and shiny leggings.

It may be the case that RuPaul's Drag race and its ilk will be our Black & White Minstrel Show.

& why aren’t fish called woman-y? Just musing

Am I allowed to or is that against the rules now?

FYI - Feminism is not for women only. It's is about equality between all genders.

It’s pretty ludicrous to say that if you object to the word “fishy” you’re a bigot or a homophobe. I’m bisexual and hang out with lots of gay guys. A few years ago one of my good friends used the term “fishy” and I called him out on it. He argued with me for a bit, and it turned out he actually thought women smelled of fish. After I corrected him, he could see how offensive the term was and never used it again. I don’t see anything bigoted in this exchange.

The post from bob is brilliant.

I don't get this thread at all. It is so bloody obvious that 'fishy is offensive and that the BBC shouldn't have used it.

How bloody blinkered and dog-in-the-manger do you have to be to bother to turn up to argue this?

I feel there is an attempt to derail the thread from the feminist analysis of the term "fishy".

Unsurprised that Mumsnet is full of radfems and morons

Actually this board of Mumsnet is peopled by women ( & men) of all backgrounds and persuasions - and certainly not all would use the label 'rad fem' to describe themselves. Personally, don't identify with any label. I'm just me. I'm here because of the deep disrespect towards women that is inherent in the radical TRA agenda.

Excellent argument Petty - hang on a sec whilst we dismantle it and respond....

Oh wait, name calling, really all they have.

As you were.

Unsurprised that Mumsnet is full of radfems

Yes, on the feminist board of this primarily female centred forum we do actual feminism! Fancy that!