BBC Rupaul Drag Quiz

No! Nothing to see here!

Women's cunts smell like fish. Totally progressive. How dare you be offended? Yadda yadda yadda yadda. Oppression Olympics - women fail to qualify. Good job too, they'd only stink up the podium the fucking fishy cunts.

I thought "fish" to describe a woman in Polari had been dropped by the gay community so I'm surprised to see it surface. My gay drag queen bff won't use it anymore and he's also bff with one of the Rupaul contestants. I'll have to quiz him on whether it's been dropped generally, just in the UK or other

while sexism IS an issue, so is homophobia.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand any guess at how many MNetters on the FWR board are homosexual?

Being homosexual doesn't cancel out misogyny, it really doesn't. Coming from a community with a history of struggle against oppression also doesn't issue a free card to be misogynistic and oppress women. (How much of that struggle have you actually experienced personally?)

Btw, name calling to try and shut down a discussion went out with David Cameron and everyone believing Fererro Rocher really was something served at diplomatic service parties.

Where is the quiz?

I’ve complained to the BBC - they wouldn’t allow this kind of slur for any other group

Women are subject to mysoginy

Gay men are subject to homophobia

It’s not ok for women to use homophobic language even though they are oppressed

It’s not ok for gay men to use misogynistic language even though they are oppressed

Fishy is 100% misogynistic. It refers to supposedly the “gross & fishy” smell of the female genitalia. It is equivalent to going on and on about the supposed grossness of gay men’s rear ends (something that straight male homophobes can’t seem to stop talking).

Still I like Ru Paul. He knows gender is just a show and mostly garbage to be made fun of. And for that I respect him.

I dont know why I thought I could bring sense to a bunch of women who view the smell of their own genitals more important than the fact that while sexism IS an issue, so is homophobia.

Becca love, if your genitals smell of fish go see a doctor, that isn't normal.

Mine don't, nor do any other healthy woman's, which is why it is so very, very misogynistic to use the word 'fishy' about women.

(My phone is very slow so my last post skipped a few posts...)

It's completely fine that you don't like drag that's not what I was trying to say, to be completely honest it was mainly the replies underneath your own. It's a word in a quiz that was made for fun for some people to immediately jump in with how they find drag offensive just because of one simple correlation really didn't sit right with me

So men taking the piss out of women is fine. I suggest you look at stats on crimes - homophobic Vs male against women and what constitutes each.

So homophobic crimes may be listed anything from from name calling upwards, male against female crimes from beatings and upwards.

Homophobia is not as bad as it used to be but still exists of course. So that makes it ok for men to parade as stereotypes of the worst of women and insult them?

How does that work then? If you’ve just come on here to ‘tell them women off’, thanks for your opinion, now why not just get lost?

I love Drag Race, always have, but I agree that when you actually think about a lot of it, there's a shiteload of inherent misogyny there, inherited from gay culture. Fishy is a compliment isn't it? But actually, as a woman, it's not that much of a compliment to have a defining characteristic as being your genitals smelling of fish. Yes it's throwabaout comment but it's something I'm giving more thought to. They're not evil bad people, it has more in common with pantomime dames and theatre but there's a few elements that are interesting to unpick a little bit if you want to understand how men view women.

I just looked up ‘fishy’ and find the meaning really offensive! Has anyone complained to the BBC?

for you to be offended by the word fishy being used in this context is outright horrible

Why?

Not seen an answer yet.

I quite like drag race. I can’t really see much to get my nickers in a twist about, it’s all about the designs and creativity. Now, if they were then entering a women’s competition then yeah, it would piss me off. If they were using the women’s bathrooms, taking women’s jobs then yes. They don’t get judged on how much they look like a woman because they don’t look like women, but grotesque exaggerated caricatures of women. Actually that’s a lie, some of them are very beautiful.....but still not women.

How do you view a smell?

I dont know why I thought I could bring sense to a bunch of women who view the smell of their own genitals more important than the fact that while sexism IS an issue, so is homophobia. Being a woman doesn't make you exempt from also being close minded, you can't just say one groups oppression doesn't matter because at one point in time you would've been oppressed similarly

But they had 1950s dresses on and lipstick.
It's ok though, not like the BBC is complicit...

Not woman.

The tagline for the UK show is "May the best woman win."

The words and phrases used by drag queens come from a history of oppression and discrimination. well duuurrrrrr - FOR WOMEN, not men aping women.

Well I’m offended that you’re offended that we’re offended & offended by your offense. I am the most oppressed offended .

I win therefore I can say what I like.

And that makes you even more horrible.

I too am offended that you are offended that we are offended.

Just to add that just because someone has been oppressed in the past does not make it OK to be offensive to women. You only need to type 'fishy drag' into google for it to throw back at you that the term derives from women's vagina's being described as smelling like fish. If you can't see what's offensive about that, you need your eyesight testing.