New NHS guidance on same sex accommodation

What about religious women? I’d have a hard enough time in my PJs in front of strangers let alone men in nighties - especially the types who really really want to be ‘in with the girls’. I wouldn’t sleep.

'1.2 Guidance statement: Providers of NHS-funded care are expected to have a zero-tolerance approach to mixed-sex accommodation, except where it is in the overall best interest of all patients affected.'

I can't see how it could be in the "best interest of ALL parients affected"
to share a room with someone of a sifferent sex unless there'a an emergency, complete lack of beds or staff etc. So it shouldn't happen on normal wards.

My elderly mum woke up to find another elderly lady in her hospital bed with her. They were both very frightened.

Mum is incredibly anxious and correct. She’d have been traumatized if that woman had been a confused male.

My Dad is currently on a Male hospital ward, along with another chap who adamantly refuses to wear hospital trousers or get under the covers. Today on visit I was greeted with his testicle coming out the edge of his incontinence pad/not pants.

I had dignity issues about this anyway but would be starting WW3 if that view was opposite my Mum's hospital bed instead

Yes needmoresleep I had exactly the same thought about dementia having seen this for myself in care homes. Terrifying. I actually believe there would be a market for single sex care homes.

My dad is in a mixed sex dementia ward at the moment, the women are at one end of the ward and the men at the other but there is nothing to stop them wandering into each other’s rooms

disinhibited sexuality in elderly people with dementia is far from uncommon and a sensible and experience management will build protection into their active safeguarding provisions.

But no, the woke bros with their friends in PN know better. In reality they don't know anything.

How many people usually share a ward in UK hospitals?

The only way we’re going to stop this is by being more fucking awkward and louder than the narc men who are driving it.

This this this.

The only way we’re going to stop this is by being more fucking awkward and louder than the narc men who are driving it.

Damn straight, AnyOldPrion. At the same time, aggressive gender activists and those abusive people for whom they open these doors RELY on the fact that women are socialized to be kind, not to make a fuss, and also for very good reason to be frightened of male people --- particularly male people who act aggressively and unreasonably right off the bat.

They've got the front to talk about "zero tolerance for mixed-sex" and then talk about "well if any bloke wants to be in with the women, then we'll facilitate that".

Load of bollocks.

They won't have done an impact assessment on women. Nor will they have considered how religious women who cannot undress in front of men will be affected.

Women will be refusing to to go hospital. And will be discharging themselves rather than risk having to share with men.

Expect private health insurance to cash in with their guarantees of a private room. For those who can afford it only.

Is it just the usual creeps having regulatory captured the NHS

Pretty sure you don't have to look any further.

So the NHS treats not bodies but airy fairy feels?

Thank god that wasn’t my mum on that ward - she would have thrown the mother and father of all fits. It would make the papers. My grandmother would have been worse...

The NHS knows perfectly well the difference between male and female - but it clearly only matters in a clinical sense, not in any sense relating to safety, dignity or emotional well-being of patients or staff.

MIL recently spent a week in a ward with a 'lady' who had a penis, stubble and chest hair. This lady loudly farted at will and scratched her scrotum whilst she wore pink floral pyjama bottoms, no top but open pink gown make up

Think if this ever happens to a relative of mine, I will complain loud and long to whoever is in charge. The only way we’re going to stop this is by being more fucking awkward and louder than the narc men who are driving it.

This is fucking outrageous. Just thinking of how vulnerable I've felt whenever I've had to stay in hospital. How can we complain? Did NHS consult on this?

New guidance. Even worse than the old guidance. Even though it was produced in response to objections.

Sorry but ‘she - her - lady - penis’ reminds me of a kids tv song I half remember -‘3 of these words all go together, 3 of these words mean kind of the same, One of these words...’

I'm glad the NHS's money is being well spent on this guidance.
Labour will give us more of this "compassionate wokeness"

MIL recently spent a week in a ward with a 'lady' who had a penis, stubble and chest hair. This lady loudly farted at will and scratched her scrotum whilst she wore pink floral pyjama bottoms, no top but open pink gown make up.

This lady's manner was verbally aggressive to staff who were treating her as best they could. Their stand off attitude was more to do with her vile behaviour than her penis!

If the Equality Act allows for sex segregated spaces then why aren't hospital wards where women are often undressed, receiving treatment and vulnerable included in this? Is it just the usual creeps having regulatory captured the NHS or is there are actual legal arguments?

Surely there aren't even suitable facilities in or close to some wards though. Are there men's showers on a maternity ward for trans men giving birth to use? Do they now have to be introduced?

Several decades ago, mixed sex geriatric wards weren't uncommon. A great uncle was in one, along with a nun who apparently thought she'd gone to hell.

This is where enforced ideology and wearing rainbow badges gets you. It’s all lovely and nice and inclusive.

Nope.