Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

McKinnon has tweeted this rapey stuff before. It reveals a lot about them.

OH MY GOD I CANNOT EVENNNN

I said that someone saying this in explicit and undeniable terms would be peak trans for me. And I was right.

Oh. My. God.

Still, STILL some people are trying to tell us that male born people have the right to tell women who they should and shouldn't fuck.

I'm bi and i should not be made to feel that I am phobic of anything for not wanting to fuck a pre or post op trans woman.

I am allowed to say NO!

It is not racist for me to say I haven't ever been attracted physically to a particular race as I would never treat anyone of any race with any other than kindness and respect. So it is not transphobic to say I don't want to shag someone who is transitioning or has transitioned.

I am so fucking angry about this.

Still, STILL it's "cis women" who are vilified for saying what they are and are not comfortable with sexually.

Ffs stop the world I want to get off.

Not that I think McKinnon could deceive anyone in relation to McKinnon's actual biology.

I would expect this to be more of a problem for transmen as they pass more easily, mainly due to them nearly all having beards to disguise their feminine facial features. I think if you aren't open about your trans status and genitals from the start then you are just delaying rejection. Sexual attraction is important and people's secondary sexual features just signal to us which sex group they belong to.
People usually imagine sexual encounters with someone before they actually have sex. Those imaginary encounters will nearly always feature genitals.

Funny how the conversation is always about what kind of genitals women are expected to have sex with. I never see anyone pushing the argument that men who won’t have sex with ladydick are transphobic.

Isn't that a mystery.....

I'm pretty sure it's rape by deception?
Like this person found out:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7180730/trans-man-who-tricked-women-with-fake-penis-during-sex-and-made-one-ashamed-for-not-getting-pregnant-jailed

Women (although they may now identify as trans), have done this too:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gayle-newland-lawyers-for-woman-who-duped-female-lover-into-thinking-she-was-a-man-consider-appeal-a6734126.html

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-pretended-man-wearing-body-6719202

It's bothered trans activists for a while:
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trans-people-could-face-rape-charges-if-they-don-t-declare-sexual-history-warns-trans-activist-a7076546.html

I guess it's dysphoria. Lost so far down the path that any sort of biological reality is too painful to admit too. But it doesn't help in the long run because you HAVE to be honest with your partner.

There was a case a few years ago where a woman was jailed for pretending to be a man and having blindfolded sex with a woman.

Even Paris Lees told RM to just stop

RM is being an absolute fucking hypocrite, given RM retrospectively calls RM's trans widow a rapist for sex that took place during the marriage.

WTF?

Is he not aware that sexual orientation is actually a protected characteristic?? What an absolute twat..

Well a lot of people conveniently forget that sex not gender is a protected characteristic so sure, why not extend that...

Poor Joss Prior has been trying hard on Twitter to show that the cotton ceiling isn't a thing. Poor Joss, undermined by Joss's own side.

I saw these tweets and they are creepy and vile, as well as disgustingly misogynistic and frankly homophobic. It's almost as RM is now the poster child for lesbian conversion therapy. It's cringey and just "rapey".

Sadly, even though I'm trans, I can't answer the question as to why transwomen don't just date in their own pool. (I'll probably be accused of being transphobic now because I don't want 'girl dick'). Tbh I don't think I could handle the 'crazy' and delusions even before genital/body preference even came up.

From my own perspective I'm only attracted to men (of the adult human male variety), and when I showed my DP these tweets this morning, his response would probably earn me a ban if I repeated them .

However, in a non sweary moment, he simply stated the bloody obvious..

Women should be able to define themselves in any way they choose and by that definition be able to express their sexuality in any way they choose. It's not rocket science. Just basic autonomy.

Now why can't the TRAs get this? Genital preference is not transphobic ffs.

Is he not aware that sexual orientation is actually a protected characteristic?? What an absolute twat..

So, if a cis gendered female takes a cis gendered male to the bedroom - sees him naked decides she no longer wants the coitus (changes her mind), then she should still have sex with him?

A phobia isn't a legal term as far as I'm aware.

It was a throwaway comment. Why do you think refusing to sleep with someone who has deceived you about their sex is "transphobia"?

RM is being an absolute fucking hypocrite, given RM retrospectively calls RM's trans widow a rapist for sex that took place during the marriage.

On reflection, this might actually be good. Hear me out....

'Beryl' picks up 'Jean' in a lesbian bar. They go back to Beryl's for a bit of action, where it turns out that Jean has an 8" surprise waiting. Beryl politely declines. Jean goes on a "transphobia!" bender.

All Beryl has to do is say "I'm a lesbian - I only have sex with women. Jean pretended to be a lesbian, but they are male with a penis and testicles. When I declined to have sex with them, Jean got angry with me; and now they are spreading lies about me "

Everybody in the real world knows what those words mean and what the rapey, male-entitlement subtext of Jean's outrage is.

Oh FFS. The old "we get killed over this" tosh.

How many transwomen are actually killed each year because someone didn't like what was between their legs as they were about to get it on? I'm guessing the proportion of that number who were victims of lesbians (and they can F off with cis lesbian) is probably none.

Why are all these "women " not protesting the number of actual adult human females murdered by their partners in the UK EVERY WEEK?!!

I asked my gay friend what he thought about this and he said he isn't "doing vag" regardless if it's attached to a man or a woman. Neither would I.

A phobia isn't a legal term as far as I'm aware.

So consent goes out of the window 🤨 and we have to let these people have sex with us?

I think I would actually agree with rm that this genuinely is transphobia

Why? People's bodies aren't subject to the Equality Act.

If I take someone to my bedroom "for relations" I can change my mind whenever I like and for whatever reason I like. Rapey twit

Surely this is the point?

Yes exactly, Michelle.