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Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

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Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 12:37

RM is busy trying to justify their support for a particularly unpleasant tweet yesterday. For those of you who are blocked, I'll add some grabs.

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ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 30/09/2019 16:19

The rest of the male population aren't special so it doesn't matter if their fee fees are hurty hurted.

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 30/09/2019 16:17

I enjoyed RMs assertion that it's only transwomen that are 'cut' by women that are 'repulsed by dicks'.

Just transwomen. Not the rest of the male population then?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 16:14

What? A woman - well a lesbian - would not be ecstatic to be half naked, vulnerable and alone with a man with an erection?

Is this one of those ‘I can shag you straight’ fantasies that some men seem to have? And how would they fee of their laydee love was in fact a stronger intact male, capable of overpowering and raping them?

Ereshkigal · 30/09/2019 16:13

<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1177539691618414597?s=19" target="_blank">Poor Joss Priorr^ has been trying hard on Twitter to show that the cotton ceiling isn't a thing. Poor Joss, undermined by Joss's own side.

YY. You'd have to have a heart of stone...

It's interesting that other TRAs have "spoken up" when I've never seen them do so before. And in fact, like Joss, usually dismiss and/or try to deny that this is a thing. Are they finally experiencing a bit of self awareness about the optics?

AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2019 16:11

It's a story as old as time "man gets angry because lesbian won't be turned by his amazing (lady)cock"

owlonabike · 30/09/2019 16:10

If I were a lesbian, trapped, possibly half dressed and vulnerable in a bedroom with a personwithasuddenlyrevealedpenis and working out the least rage -inducing way of saying No- well, damn right I’d be panicking. Not big on empathy, is Rachel. Or indeed, any shred of human decency.

Ereshkigal · 30/09/2019 16:09

if you don't like it - JUST TRY IT!

Why would trans people be "the only people who get cut out"? If someone doesn't want dick, they aren't going to sleep with other males either, so they are also "cut out".

AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2019 16:04

bet that straight male husband would be gone faster than a bullet if princess decided to transition to a man though, and got a fake dick and called themselves gay.

I know right and it was just coincidence that Princess pan happened to fall for a straight cis man too, she's really up for everything ....if she was single......but she isn't so..........

BeMoreMagdalen · 30/09/2019 16:01

McKinnon is a straight up professional troll. I am astounded anyone takes McKinnon's shit seriously, but I guess if McKinnon excels at anything, it's the ability to dupe wokesters into revealing their rapey, misogynist inner heart. I'm sure McKinnon probably isn't a ringer doing that on purpose, but damn, there are a lot of idiots with a really nasty inner life that McKinnon is magnifying with this utterly bizarre MRA schtick.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 30/09/2019 15:59

hahaha I loll'd at that exact comment also

bet that straight male husband would be gone faster than a bullet if princess decided to transition to a man though, and got a fake dick and called themselves gay.

...because he is straight and likes having sex with women.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 15:59

Hang on ‘princess’ married to straight man?

Hold the press! How disgusting. Someone call Fortean Times...

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 15:57

So:

-Male bodied person (saying they are female) wants to sleep with women.
-May even get as far as the bedroom (but how the hell...?).
-Gets angry and lashes out when rejected by woman (as only males can - women more likely to be upset and hurt).
-Accuses woman of transphobia/bigotry
-May even hound them at university until the leave.
-Goes onto social media to vent spleen. may name and shame to ‘punish’ them.
-Has a incel-inspired rant about women not wanting to sleep with them (boohoo)
-Wonder how they would react if they lured smoothe talked ‘Jackie’ to the boudoir and Jackie turned out to be James?

Funny that. You can take the man out of the big but not the big out of the man (as my dad would say).

KatvonHostileExtremist · 30/09/2019 15:53

Oh buzz

That's a classic there from that fruitloop. "I've never loved heterosexual sex more*

AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2019 15:52

(And then a super speshul look at me I am so different pansexual princess who is married to...wait for it.... a straight man

hahaha I loll'd at that exact comment also

NothingTraLaLa · 30/09/2019 15:51

Mmm, there's nothing sexier than getting it on with someone who is (a) deluding themselves as to their sex and (b) trying to similarly deceive me.

2Rebecca · 30/09/2019 15:49

Why is it so important for trans people to pigeon hole the sexuality of the people they have sex with and pretend they are straight and cis? If you are a male having sex with another male who identifies as a woman you are still a male having sex with a male. Why is this so awful? Why is pretending they are hetero so important? Why can't this bloke be genderqueer or any of the other labels they are so fond of? Do they think they get extra kudos for pretending that their male can't tell the difference between males and females? It's like transwomen wanting to pretend that if they have sex with a woman it's a lesbian relationship, no, the woman is either straight or bisexual. Either is OK but why introduce "let's pretend" in to it all if it doesn't matter?

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 30/09/2019 15:48

I love everyones genitals?

Really?

This is where I call, aye right!

I don't love anyones genitals. Genitals are not very lovable. I love my partner. His genitals give me pleasure but I don't love genitals per se cause that's just weird.

Don't these self obsessed teeds understand that when normal people talk about sexual attraction we are talking about the whole package?

I like men, I like their firmness, their broadness, their smell, their strength, their narrow hips. They wouldn't appeal to me at all if they were disembodied genitals.

What a strange thing to say.

Interestedwoman · 30/09/2019 15:46

#ThisNeverHappens of course! Words cannot express how much I hate this rapey coercion, primarily of lesbians. Ugh!

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 30/09/2019 15:40

(And then a super speshul look at me I am so different pansexual princess who is married to...wait for it.... a straight man Hmm )

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
BuzzShitbagBobbly · 30/09/2019 15:39

RM certainly is doubling down. There are some absolute corkers where their mask has not so much slipped as fallen off and been tramped into the dirt.

if you don't like it - JUST TRY IT!

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2019 15:26

sleeping with them I mean^^

randomusername · 30/09/2019 15:26

Surely that encourages rape culture? Nobody is entitled to have sex with anyone, anyone can change their mind. Everyone is allowed to have their own sexual preferences. They're getting themselves into a dangerous state of incongruence. Say a biological man recognised himself as a woman, they decide they are a woman in every aspect and anyone disagrees, or is only attracted to biological females is transphobic because to them they are completely female. Having a sexuality is okay and not recognising that is extremely dangerous.

AryaStarkWolf · 30/09/2019 15:26

I wonder how accommodating RM is to other trans women with ladydicks?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 30/09/2019 15:25

Glad to see Paris Lees speaking up. McKinnons bullshit helps no one. No one at all.

ThatCurlyGirl · 30/09/2019 15:20

This line of thinking would mean that gay men are womanphobic and lesbians are menphobic. That's the same argument but IT DOESNT WORK!!!

I used to refuse to believe that people like RM are just totally disingenuous but fuck it, they are aren't they? They're laughing at us.

How dare you call me transphobic because I might not want to have sex with a particular person.

How fucking dare you.