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Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

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Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 12:37

RM is busy trying to justify their support for a particularly unpleasant tweet yesterday. For those of you who are blocked, I'll add some grabs.

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Lifeinthelastlane · 01/10/2019 08:12

I think in this case asexuality means "no one wants to have sex with me", though I might be wrong.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 08:08

I believe they were married to a woman before

TemporaryPermanent · 01/10/2019 08:02

Oh if RM is asexual that makes some kind of sense - if perhaps they've never felt desire they really don't have a clue what it feels like to want someone physically at all, or why it matters to people to be with someone they desire rather than someone they don't. That makes me feel a bit sorry for RM except that they're a grown adult who might perhaps recognise that pronouncing on stuff you don't experience yourself is a bit adolescent. To be fair I dont really understand asexuality in people who do have sex, as might be clear from this...

Lifeinthelastlane · 01/10/2019 08:01

It still pains me that someone who works in bloody epistemology can talk like this.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 01/10/2019 07:46

Just stopping by to say thanks to pp for the Magdalen link - always appreciated.

She is simply luminous.

I also wish she would have done a series of bedtime stories because her voice was so gloriously languorous

Creepster · 01/10/2019 05:46

Well quite, but when it comes to sexual attraction we are all allowed to be much pickier than our sexual orientation.
You would think so, but nope.
Having a sexual orientation is transphobic according to the latest from the transgender advocacy groups.

thirdfiddle · 01/10/2019 01:00

Utterly beggars belief when you read their Twitter posts that this is a) a working academic and b) someone the BBC would interview as an expert. They seem to be operating on more of a JY level of intellect.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 01/10/2019 00:14

Those poor women who're in relationships in which they're being expected to just "get over" their repulsion towards penises. I wish I could send them all the Freedom Program.

CatalogueUniverse · 01/10/2019 00:04

These screenshots from that thread are really upsetting. Not one but 2 transwomen dating women who really don’t want to do penis.

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
ErrolTheDragon · 30/09/2019 23:54

Oddly enough, I doubt the wisdom of this self-proclaimed 'public intellectual' has much traction outside of academic philosophy departments... and I'd guess not that much within those either.
I'd be curious to know if the 3 reviewers had any idea who RM is.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 23:44

I hope Rachel isn't marketing that book to, say, air traffic controllers, or surgeons.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/09/2019 23:41

Someone said up thread that RM is asexual. I didn't know that but just seen them confirm it on Twitter.

That seems to be contradicting the 'sexy fun time bits' tweet upthread.Confused

I know RM has written the book on not needing to know what you're talking about but this seems a bit extreme.Confused

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 23:35

Who needs contraception when you have a personality like Rachel's?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/09/2019 23:32

Me too, @TheProdigalKittensReturn!

Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 23:29

Someone said up thread that RM is asexual. I didn't know that but just seen them confirm it on Twitter. So... someone who isn't really into sex anyway has spent the day saying they're fine with other people's bits and we should be too but they don't actually do sex themselves. You literally couldn't make this shit up.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 23:14

Most people don't dislike you because you're trans, they dislike you because you're a bully and a narcissist.

Rachel could be the most stunning person who ever lived and I still wouldn't want to get naked with Rachel because Rachel is a horrible person.

ThatCurlyGirl · 30/09/2019 23:12

Bloody hell.

RM - people who dislike you aren't automatically transphobic.

Most people don't dislike you because you're trans, they dislike you because you're a bully and a narcissist.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/09/2019 23:08

I actually think any sexual orientation other than pan is immoral because sexual genital preferences immoral.

Is that an actual quote? If so, is this the first recorded instance of someone being simultaneously both homophobic and heterophobic?Confused

Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 23:07

It turns out the only person on the planet who isn't transphobic is RM.

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
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Yeahnahyeah · 30/09/2019 23:03

Professional troll as others have stated. So narcissistic that I wouldn't be surprised this latest stunt is because they are feeling left out of the spotlight by not getting enough votes on Peachyogurt's tweet asking for nominations to this years awards.

Wish people would gray rock (including me). Distasteful to know this is all adding to their used tissue or stiff sock pile.

Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 23:00

Doing a bit of digging and it seems there has been some bad reaction from within the community so it's a bit of an own goal for RM.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 22:59

Well, I give as few fucks about whether or not failing to be pansexual is immoral as Rachel is likely to get from willing and enthusiastic lesbians. What then? What happens when you've pleaded your "fuck me or you're a terrible person" case and people still don't want to?

Spell it out, Rachel. Let's have the endgame here put right out on the table so everyone can decide how they feel about what you're trying to promote.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 30/09/2019 22:56

I have the sense Rache is panicking a little tiny bit.

'I actually think any sexual orientation other than pan is immoral because sexual genital preferences immoral.

But that means I think hetero people are just as bad off.'

Indeed, Rache.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/09/2019 22:50

At one point Rachel was claiming that many lesbians were eager to sample Rachel's trouser offerings.

In my experience people for whom that's true don't generally feel the need to post ranty, whinging Twitter comments about how unwilling women are to service cocks.

MrGHardy · 30/09/2019 22:45

McKinnon is an incredible creep, pervert and all-round pos.

Whenever he opens his mouth to talk about sport people should just have some of these screen grabs ready. There is literally no point debating a lunatic.