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Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

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Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 12:37

RM is busy trying to justify their support for a particularly unpleasant tweet yesterday. For those of you who are blocked, I'll add some grabs.

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GirlDownUnder · 02/10/2019 03:10

As an aside cos it’s not worth a thread but it is worth a lol and this thread is commenting on Twitter info...

Steph and co on why trans-positive accounts / topics are banned by MN - tis Justine’s fault of course.

mobile.twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1179154696134692869

mobile.twitter.com/TheWolfSpirit1/status/1179066584436006912

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
GirlDownUnder · 02/10/2019 02:39

RMcK makes the Post Millennial.

www.thepostmillennial.com/trans-athlete-claims-lesbians-are-transphobic-for-not-liking-penises/

Trans athlete claims lesbians are transphobic for not liking penises

“Okay, sure! Makes total sense. The only problem is that sexual attraction isn’t logical. Sexual attraction is not really a mind over matter enterprise. Sexual attraction is not a human characteristic that falls under the heading of rationalism.

In fact, the gay rights movement was able to gain mainstream societal acceptance precisely due to the claim that homosexuality is not a choice, but an innate characteristic, just like heterosexuality, or green eyes. If McKinnon, Dennis, and others who rail against the “cotton ceiling” want to overturn the idea that sexuality is innate, they might find themselves on unstable ground in the fight for trans acceptance. Once a thread is pulled, the whole sweater unravels.”

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/10/2019 00:30

Looking at scrimshaw's screenshot where Rachel is saying that "yellow fever" is immoral...what about lesbian fever, Rachel? Because you've got it bad.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 01/10/2019 22:06

errol

That’s exactly what i was thinking!!

Or to be more exact i was thinking that if someone like martina says something quite sensible and then gets an almighty pile on by a bunch of nobodies spouting a load of crap...

Well...a woman like martina doesnt back down. She starts paying MUCH more attention, to everything

Pissing her off is an epic fail

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2019 21:59

Oh, RM makes all sorts of people see the light. Another thread had me musing whether, but for the efforts of this magnificent Sherpa, would an international legend like Martina Navratilova be commenting on (not) single-sex NHS wards?

Doyoumind · 01/10/2019 20:03

I know RM was talking about a rescheduled or new talk recently on Twitter but I can't be bothered to wade back to find it.

I don't know the actual figures but I did notice that yesterday RM's followers numbered well over 9,700. I think they are down by about 100 in 24 hours. Not a huge number and some of them will be people RM blocked but I also think some people have seen the light.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 19:24

And the fact they sold 2 tickets to feminists and one to their mate. Ok they may have sold 8... the organisers pulled it because of lack of interest.

Fallingirl · 01/10/2019 19:19

Didn’t the cancellation coincide with their celebratory tweets about Magdalen moving in to palliative care?

Needmoresleep · 01/10/2019 18:54

I dont know if it has already been discussed but Rachey's talk on transgender people and sport which was happening in mid-October seems to have been cancelled.

Lack of ticket sales apparently. I had been considering taking one for the team, but £25 seemed a bit steep.

(Alternative explanation. People got worried that Rachey might find them attractive, so were scared to attend....)

birdsdestiny · 01/10/2019 18:54

You are5 the thing is people can be not attracted to another person for any reason they like. The alternative is too horrific to think about.
Robert Downey Jr, the selfish prick, doesn't want to shag me for the ridiculous reason that he doesn't know I exist.

DuMondeB · 01/10/2019 18:43

It’s not every day that a boring old heterosexual married person like me is described as ‘immoral’ due to my sexual preference.

I shall revel in it. Surely all the most exciting sex is immoral?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 01/10/2019 18:36

It would actually be easier and quicker (though less comical) to have a list of things/behaviours that aren't transphobic.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 01/10/2019 18:30

I think shit got real and now some of the allies are worried that they might be required to find out what is in those cycling shorts

GrinGrinGrin

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 01/10/2019 18:28

It's just that a few are back peddling now because they've realised how it makes them look.

I think shit got real and now some of the allies are worried that they might be required to find out what is in those cycling shorts.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 01/10/2019 18:26

Scrimshaw that tweet is MN gold. Can you start your own topic with it?

Not a thread. I want that tweet and the one where he says he won't do vagina to have their own topic. Grin

CatalogueUniverse · 01/10/2019 18:15

Hang on.

Genital preference is transphobic.

Is it transphobic only when considering other people’s genitals?
Or does it mean
Genital preference for your own genitalia’s appearance is internalised transphobia?

NotTerfNorCis · 01/10/2019 18:14

McKinnon's position was standard in trans ideology. Probably still is. It's just that a few are back peddling now because they've realised how it makes them look.

Ereshkigal · 01/10/2019 17:56

The thing is, though, isn't Rachel's position is in fact the completely logical end point of trans ideology?

Indeed it is. Just like Rachel's position on trans inclusion in female sports is that any testosterone reduction rules at all are transphobic, which is the logical endpoint to including males in the female category for their gender identity.

AryaStarkWolf · 01/10/2019 17:23

Wrong Hemsworth and wrong Chris Grin

RueCambon · 01/10/2019 17:21

Im 49 and i fancy men of about 35 the most.

But they dont reciprocate so as a woman, i just bloody accept that

Are the hot men in their 30s who have their shit together being agephobic? Can i force liam henswoth or chris pine to have a relationship with me?!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 17:12

That’s the thing though isn’t it. They always turn on their familiars. You only have to watch any vampire movie...

birdsdestiny · 01/10/2019 17:08

First they came for the women.
And where the fuck were you then adrian?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 17:03

I think he should just delete all his tweets and sit on the naughty step to consider his transgression.

LangCleg · 01/10/2019 17:01

Adrian! You have failed the cunnilingus challenge! Go and stand in the corner with Owen. And don't come back until you've thought really, really hard about what you've done.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 16:52

So sexy isn’t anything to do with genitals. Not even a teensy bit?

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