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Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

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randomusername · 26/09/2019 09:53

It also crosses the line from informative to inappropriate

randomusername · 26/09/2019 09:51

I hope every parent at that schools removes their child immediately, there is no way that can be introduced to 6 year olds in a platonic way.
Nor is it appropriate to teach UNDERAGE children no doesn't mean no. I appreciate if teenagers want to have sex, they will and better informed than not. However this encourages rape culture. At 13 I was still secretly playing with dolls!!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 09:50

Those guidelines have nothing to do with what 13 year olds might be considering trying and everything to do with what some porn addicted bloke who's old enough to be their dad jerks it to the thought of them trying.

Pota2 · 26/09/2019 09:46

Yeah what the fuck. These practices are straight out of porn. I am guessing there will be an informative piece about strangulation along soon and how girls who let their boyfriends strangle them are way more empowered than the prudes that don’t. FACT. Maybe also something informing you to examine your prejudices for not wanting anal and just getting over them.

Nuffaluff · 26/09/2019 09:42

That is so far out beyond the other side of unbelievable, I can’t even...
How did anyone involved in education think this is a good idea?
Seems it’s written by a dodgy person, but lots of well meaning people who should know better would have been involved in approving this. They should be sacked!

TabbyTurmoil · 26/09/2019 09:41

The year was 1992. In my classroom all us 13 year olds knew what felching was and used to bring it up in PSE lessons to try and embarrass our teachers. We thought it was disgusting and I am entirely sure none of us, male or female, were doing it or had any interest in doing it.

Almost 30 years later I've had male friends who've been pegged, heard scatting anecdotes and known fans of fisting (all lesbian) but I've never, never known anyone who admitted to felching.

If it's being presented to school kids as a legitimate sexual act they might fancy doing that's bonkers and extremely wrong.

TruthOnTrial · 26/09/2019 09:33

I have seen nothing of his qualifications to be writing school programmes.

I have only just realised that teachers are not running their own lessons anymore but money is being shelled out for non-teachers to do it!

What sort of guff is this and when did it start?

As for him writing content, and the awful stuff he's written.

As for the anal, and fisting, ffs! Positive sex? Negotiation?

Should anal ever be advocated. I have spoken to teens who seem to be under some sort of mythical delusion, and yes, they have done triple science and had top results.

These are clever young people who believe the vagina is the same as the anus/rectum?

I had to point out risks, and possible serious harms that could result from anal.

Why is it being presented as an equal choice?

When is vaginal sex not good enough? I have never understood why.

Just because gay, doesn't mean anal either, that also seems to be a fixed myth.

The whole thing is monstrous. Why are parents with such young ones not raging at MPs about this?

I read all the literature on content when mine were that age, and there was nothing like this in there!

Warwickshire - hang your heads in shame; you don't know your boundaries and are facilitating child grooming. Unbelievably gross.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 08:55

What process does the school district use to determine who is and is not qualified to produce material for them to use in teaching students? Is the process "this one offered to work for free Gregg's pasties"?

OrchidInTheSun · 26/09/2019 08:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7490415/Children-young-SIX-given-compulsory-self-touching-lessons.html

Same bloke wrote this. Are we spotting a pattern here? Despite him advising Warwickshire schools for several years, I can find no evidence of his qualifications for writing their sex education. Not on his website, not on another eduction website he's on.

Bizarre.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 08:46

Actual potential question a 13 year old might have - If we're kissing what am I meant to do with my tongue that isn't awkward?

Not actual potential question a 13 year old might have - So should the felching come before or after the fisting?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 08:44

And much like smoking both are illegal if you are 13.

Again, who approved this, and what is the procedure to launch disciplinary action against them? Mermaids call the police every time someone looks sideways at Susie Green. Time to push back.

Datun · 26/09/2019 08:42

Someone, or several someones, looked this over and decided that it was appropriate material to present to children via the school system.

Perhaps it's the palsy language, the banter, and youth talk. Makes the authorities feel they're not au fait with current trends and are therefore out of the loop with what's appropriate.

And they get told that yes, of course 13-year-olds are at it like knives. Fisting, felching, faece-ing and arse fucking left right and centre. So of course we have to go into great detail and enormous depth, just to provide them with information about what they're already doing, you know, to be safe.

They never write a whole series of leaflets about how to say no. About how girls' boundaries are sacrosanct. About how many, many girls are saying no, wanting to say no, need to say no. And how to withstand coercion, peer pressure and the expectations produced by 24/7 pornography. All the actual things that are happening.

Not, isn't it fun to play with each other's shit.

2BthatUnnoticed · 26/09/2019 08:39

This is grooming, sure it breaches some indecency legislation? Where is Jacky when you need her?

Imo anal sex (and fisting!? - gross) is like smoking. A genuine health hazard and not to be done. Prude shame me all you want.

JoyceJeffries · 26/09/2019 08:32

I’m not in England but what sort of responsibilities do the school governors have over this?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 08:32

Whose desk/s does this kind of think pass across before being approved by the local authority? Someone, or several someones, looked this over and decided that it was appropriate material to present to children via the school system. Who are those people? What are their names? What is the procedure that needs to be followed to file official complaints against them?

The groomers and the creeps and the pushers of baroque ideologies about sex and gender have proven themselves willing to play political hardball and use the system to get what they want. It's time for a coalition of people united by the fact that we're not complete fucking deviants to push back.

KarenWithTheHair · 26/09/2019 08:28

Just tried to click on the link but my parental controls blocked it. Says it all really but at least I don’t have to worry about my dc reading it.

However I wanted to say that I’ve seen this on fb as it’s very local to me and there’s a huge amount of protest around it and many many parents have complained to the council. I’m not sure what response they’ve had but I’ll have a look later.

Datun · 26/09/2019 08:25

What bloody fucking thirteen year old girl wants to be fisted??????

I mean I'm tempted to ask what female on the planet wants it, but someone, somewhere is bound to start extolling the virtues.

But I'm pretty confident it's fairly niche. As is, I'm fairly certain, the mutual 'playing with faeces' he describes.

I mean ffs. This is beyond everything.

MsTSwift · 26/09/2019 08:17

Jesus Christ.

FannyCann · 26/09/2019 08:14

ProdigalKittens Grin

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/09/2019 07:54

Honestly I think it's more likely that the porn addicted 12 year old girl is the creation of the author's porn addled imagination.

SimonJT · 26/09/2019 07:53

@Pota2 Worryingly it seems that the child’s parent/s (if that child exists) aren’t monitoring internet usage, which is very irresponsible.

MonsteraCheeseplant · 26/09/2019 07:52

Holy crap. The Paedophiles are getting braver.

So this is sponsored by actual organisations? I think we know what we need to do then.

KizzyWayfarer · 26/09/2019 07:51

There was a really good website I learned about when I did a job related to PHSE, unfortunately I can’t remember the name. It basically explained the ways in which porn sex wasn’t like real life sex - like girls might want foreplay and might prefer to have sex in positions that aren’t all about getting the best camera angles. Probably was aimed at teens older than 13! It’s perfectly possible to create resources that actually help young people.

Pota2 · 26/09/2019 07:27

The 12 year old addicted to porn thing is worrying. Hopefully it’s a fantasy in someone’s twisted mind and not true but what the hell are they thinking? A 12 year old is unable to give consent to sex at all.

VortexofBloggery · 26/09/2019 07:15

I agree with valb on twitter "I'm beginning to think paedophiles are in charge of a lot of public organisations."