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Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

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PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 28/09/2019 18:56

I have to say, I have never understood how you can put your fist up another person's arse without causing them an injury, especially if it's done repeatedly.

A fist?!

Datun · 28/09/2019 18:39

Why are you supporting grooming them into this hellscape

Hellscape is an appallingly accurate description.

Shoving your fist in someone's anus, or in their vagina, eating their shit?

Please tell me what is erotic about that???
It's utterly degrading - let's see if I can get this in there, just because.

Ugh.

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 16:59

Yeah Lang and not being sex as a performance but something that’s fun and lovely

LangCleg · 28/09/2019 16:51

I hate to break it to you but most teens have heard of fisting (and other acts) well before they reach 15/16.

Oh FFS. It's not about what they've heard of or what they haven't.

Read Stephanie DA's thread above. Those are the facts on the ground. Girls are being coerced into sex they neither like nor want. The rate of impotence in young men has increased from 2% to 30% because they're all pornsick and can't get a hard on. This is not sex positive, for fucks sake. This is not the healthy sexual future we want for our children.

Why are you supporting grooming them into this hellscape instead of sensible curricula that enable them to find ways to create mutually-fulfilling, sustainable sex lives that actually give them lasting pleasure?

A healthy sex life isn't a fucking video game where you chase achievements. Nothing sex positive about that.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 28/09/2019 16:35

Though i think my children might hang round with the wrong peer group for sex education

16 year ds2 said the other day that he doesn’t understand what people get out of oral sex...especially as they can’t do it at the same time

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 28/09/2019 16:29

I hate to break it to you but most teens have heard of fisting (and other acts) well before they reach 15/16.

I know that Smile

He had obviously heard if it before but it was the first time i was able to discuss something like this with him

AS I CERTAINLY WASNT BRINGING IT UP Grin

Fraggling · 28/09/2019 16:03

I am still aghast that a4yo hugging is described as sexual on a resource schools use.

I mean that's off the charts paedo max isn't it.

The only people who think a4yo giving a hug is in any way related to sex, are those who seek to justify abusing small children.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 28/09/2019 16:02

Of course teenagers have heard of this stuff. The problem is that it is being recommended to them by predatory adults rather than children being told that these are 'niche' activities that the majority of people will never consent to taking part in and as children, if anyone asks them to take part, that is an abusive request.

Datun · 28/09/2019 15:59

I hate to break it to you but most teens have heard of fisting (and other acts) well before they reach 15/16.

Entirely unsurprising when schools and councils are teaching it to them at 12 and 13.

traceyracer · 28/09/2019 15:41

"My 15/16 year old son sniggered at a fisting joke, up til then i didnt know he ‘knew’ about it"

I hate to break it to you but most teens have heard of fisting (and other acts) well before they reach 15/16.

Macca84 · 28/09/2019 15:28

What can we do? FOI request? Complaint? Something needs to happen as a matter of urgency - the content is disgusting and I cannot believe that any adult would think it a good idea to publish and normalise to young teenagers Angry

Fraggling · 28/09/2019 15:20

Sex positive and pleasure focus was 60s70s80s about female pleasure, about making sex better for women.

As ever the aim and words of feminists have been turned around, stolen by men for their own purposes.

In this case to tell girls that working in porn is great, having loads of men ejaculate over you is empowering, that if you're not sure about anal just read these instructions, and having boundaries around men seeing you unclothed in a medical context is selfish.

SunsetBeetch · 28/09/2019 15:17

Great thread from Stephanie Davies Arai

"Here is some research-based evidence for @Warwickshire_CC (thread)"

twitter.com/cwknews/status/1177898905050255360?s=19

SunsetBeetch · 28/09/2019 15:14

twitter.com/cwknews/status/1177904354101272576?s=19

Jonny Hunt's buzz words are 'sex positive' and 'pleasure.' At a @sexedforum conference he spoke on "taking sex-positive approaches in RSE starting in primary." (he also RT'd a defamatory tweet about the Transgender Trend schools pack) t.co/Wyh1BaMcLY

SunsetBeetch · 28/09/2019 14:59

From Suzzan Blac, who writes an excellent blog on the porn industry (see here theviolenceofpornography.blogspot.com/?m=1&zx=10acf05d771dac51 - not for the faint-hearted).

Anyway, do you want to see this 'Jonny Hunt'?

So 'HERE'S JONNY'
I also found him speaking on a youtube vid-
t.co/v3bD5gfZzk t.co/TqlMTZazOO

Sorry,been away on a seminar. As I said 'Jonny Hunt' is responsible for much of this literature. He also follows sexologists/Jerry Barnett(porn panic) & Myles Jackman the obscenity lawyer.#RedFlag He deems porn a 'moral' issue & equates pornography to normal cinema/films & books t.co/776wOuaeel

Fraggling · 28/09/2019 14:29

Is the issue with 15yo having anal sex (which studies have shown the boys expect, so the girls do, and they both expect it to just be painful for her)...

That they aren't getting enough instructions on how to do it.

Or would a hint that actually this is a pretty advanced thing and it's AOK to say no and do some other less tricky things instead, if you want
And that boys should take no for an answer and not plead and bagder...

Wurzelsnewhead · 28/09/2019 14:28

Thingybob the same Justin Hancock who works with Meg Barker, partner of Edward Lord?

megjohnandjustin.com/about-us/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3352843-First-there-was-Jess-Bradley-then-the-Challenors-now-Edward-Lord?pg=13&order=

Small world isn’t it Confused

Fraggling · 28/09/2019 14:27

It won't be because of pregnancy. Loads of contraceptive choices available.

This was more of a thing I've been told in societies where access to contraception is limited / or where girls want to stay 'virgins'.

It will be because of porn. No two ways about it.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 28/09/2019 14:25

clearly there is actually an issue here

Don't worry though because this is a thoroughly researched, evidence-based resource.

Oblomov19 · 28/09/2019 14:23

Whilst this is clearly awful. Ie the above link.

I have been informed that 15 year olds here, are having anal sex rather than sex, as a first sexual experience, so that they don't get pregnant!! Yes. Really!

And that this is all the rage atm. Made me Very sad.

So clearly there is actually an issue here.

Thingybob · 28/09/2019 14:08

website for the wider organisation both WCC and JH are affiliated with:
www.sexeducationforum.org.uk/

Thankyou for that link Wurzelsnewhead

I noticed that the site www.dosreforschools.com/ that Justin Hancock (another pro anal, fetish, anything goes person) co writes is among the list.

Yes we need to look at some of those so called experts who have no experience in education, child psychology or health but wish to 'educate' kids.

Fraggling · 28/09/2019 13:57

Does frantically wanking to the idea of fisting 13yo count as research?

MrGsFancyNewVagina · 28/09/2019 13:48

You’d think they’d jump at the chance to link to the ‘evidence based research’, wouldn’t you? When I was at school/uni, I always had to link to any research to show evidence of any claims.

Wurzelsnewhead · 28/09/2019 13:37

Sunset which is why the partnering of Going off the Rails, WCC ( and others) with The Sex Education Forum in my previous posts needs to be looked at.
The Sex Education Forum who led on statutory RSE need to be held accountable for the resources and teaching they are now introducing into schools.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 28/09/2019 13:22

"Researched", eh? Well, I suppose if it allows Jonny to bill for his porn watching hours...