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Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...

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Whatisthisfuckery · 25/09/2019 20:46

I’m offering this without comment, mainly because my jaw is still on the floor.

twitter.com/hubblevicky/status/1176758148721512448?s=21

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HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 18:11

Response from CEO of Warwickshire CC:

*The All About Me programme is offered to schools in Warwickshire to help their staff to teach our children appropriate lessons at this age. It is thoroughly researched and is planned and delivered in line with the national statutory Department for Education guidance

Schools in Warwickshire have been using All About Me for over a year. It was preceded by a similar programme which ran for six years. There is extensive consultation with parents, schools and governors before schools can sign up to it and staff are fully trained to deliver the programme and are supported throughout.

We take our responsibilities to our children extremely seriously and we would never allow an inappropriate programme to be used in our schools. As such we are taking the opportunity to review the material*

LangCleg · 30/09/2019 17:56

So.

In 2011, Etty and pals go off to the Netherlands.

In 2014, this sex "positive" initiative launches.

Between 2013 and 2017, minor on minor sex assaults reported to the police go up by 521% in Warwickshire.

WAY TO GO ETTY, WAY TO GO.

KarenWithTheHair · 30/09/2019 17:50

I said upthread this is local to me and there was a lot of stuff on fb about it (mostly pitchfork wielding “discusting pedos” type outrage but a lot of people claimed to have made complaints) but it seems to have all disappeared as I can’t find a single thing now and I’ve no way of looking back at pages I’ve viewed previously.

Fraggling · 30/09/2019 17:49

'show the number of reported cases more than doubled in 12 force areas over the period, including rises of 521% in Warwickshire,' Shock

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 17:39

Jonny (AKA Twitter's 'Little Rubber Hat' ) does get around!
So far I can see he's been doing the rounds at primaries and secondaries in Warwickshire, but with that many appearances he must have taken his show on the road.

I wish Andrew Gillighan was still at The Times. He uncovered the Trojan Horse scandal.

I'm in Birmingham. So many educators seem hooked on No Outsiders here - suspect Jonny has the monopoly on Warwickshire.

OhHolyJesus · 30/09/2019 17:30

Is the local paper not interested in any of this?

My local media have covered this (from a national perspective), I'm not Warwickshire-based.

Does anyone know if this is in schools elsewhere? It's meant to have been approved by DoE and in 240 schools in the Uk according the the article I read - is Warwickshire the Trojan Horse like No Outsiders is for Birmingham?

Melroses · 30/09/2019 17:25

[waves] Tis but a trifle. Means my arsing about on twitter all afternoon actually had a purpose. Wink

LangCleg · 30/09/2019 17:20

Thank you, Melroses!

Melroses · 30/09/2019 17:11

*reduction in rates of peer on peer sex assaults and harassment in schools? Comparison with other LAs not using such material
This was on Twitter, from 2017
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/03/claims-child-sexual-offences-soar-england-and-wales-police-barnardos?CMP=share_btn_tw
The figures, revealed by freedom of information requests, show the number of reported cases more than doubled in 12 force areas over the period, including rises of 521% in Warwickshire, 371% in Norfolk and 345% in Lincolnshire.

LangCleg · 30/09/2019 16:52

So, my question to Etty would be: how have you tracked and are you currently tracking the success of your sex groomingly negative positive initiatives?

Can we see:

  • change in rates of STDs among teens? Comparison of teen STD rates to other LAs not using such material?

  • reduction in rates of peer on peer sex assaults and harassment in schools? Comparison with other LAs not using such material?

  • reduction in rates of young men diagnosed with erectile dysfunction?

I have many more ideas for useful data collection so that you have a solid evidence base. Just, y'know, get in touch.

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 16:49

I'd like a transcript, Jan the Mermaids trainer style with Jonny quizzed on the programme's content.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 30/09/2019 16:48

Is the local paper not interested in any of this? It makes me so angry that sexual fetish which mainly seems to degrade women is being presented as some sort of norm.

It's very lucky that any media outlet has reported anything on this.

Dontgobacktorockville · 30/09/2019 16:36

Is the local paper not interested in any of this? It makes me so angry that sexual fetish which mainly seems to degrade women is being presented as some sort of norm.

Cuntysnark · 30/09/2019 16:36

I wonder if anyone local would like to stand outside Pound Lane with placards?

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 15:07

Jonny is also presenting at this London event in November:

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/final-countdown-to-statutory-rse-tickets-64355957401

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 14:59

Some upcoming training dates in Leamington Spa. Imagine what Jonny says to trainees

"Can anybody tell me what felching is? I bet your year 8s ask you about this all the time!"

Anal sex for 13 year olds? Warwickshire again...
SorryAuntLydia · 30/09/2019 14:58

I wonder if this is any relation?
stratfordobserver.co.uk/news/disgraced-teacher-jailed-sexual-relationship-pupil/

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 14:51

What are your sexual values?

Certainly not putting my fist up somebody's anus or eating poo.

www.goingofftherails.co.uk/what-are-your-sexual-values/

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2019 14:47

On Jonny's blogs he talks about RSE and the Equality Act. He lists the protected characteristics, conveniently replacing sex with gender.

www.goingofftherails.co.uk/inclusive-comprehensive-rse-passed-by-parliament/

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 30/09/2019 14:44

the basics of where babies come from and what periods are

believe it or not, it's optional for schools to teach primary aged children about menstruation

baffling huh?

Fieldofgreycorn · 30/09/2019 14:38

They just need to know private parts are private, to tell someone if an adult touches them where they shouldn't, and the basics of where babies come from and what periods are.

That’s what they’re taught in Holland. At the older end of that they will also need to know about the existence of contraception.

TruthOnTrial · 30/09/2019 14:37

I have done psychological observation studies, and I can't say I was impressed with his contribution to the youtube vido, for various reasons. Did notice eye contact, when compared with others in same conditions. Something disconcerting I thought.

IfNot · 30/09/2019 14:23

Why would 4-11 year olds need "sex education" anyway?
They just need to know private parts are private, to tell someone if an adult touches them where they shouldn't, and the basics of where babies come from and what periods are.
Why would they need to know any more than that? Who says they should?

littlebrown Sex positive was, I think, originally meant to mean not presenting sex as something shameful or embarrassing. I'm pretty sure it didn't mean telling little kuds that porn is empowering and that eating shit is fun. Confused

SirVixofVixHall · 30/09/2019 14:19

“Young men, and young women” i think you mean boys and girls Jonny. CHILDREN .

Fieldofgreycorn · 30/09/2019 14:19

I’d really like to know more about Dutch sex education. I’ve heard good things. Very matter of fact, not laughing, icky etc. But I am struggling to think it’s actually like this.

There isn’t much evidence that differences in outcomes are down to the education though. If there’s less ‘laughing, Icky etc’ it’s because attitudes and maturity levels are different to begin with, not so much differences in the content of the education.

Dutch society is in some ways more conservative, more religious and more family orientated. It’s also more equal. (There are also significant differences in benefits structure but I don’t want to sound like the Daily Mail).