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Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

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PennysPocket · 22/09/2019 08:46

I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years Hmm

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

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PickledGulag · 22/09/2019 15:46

Sell out parents need not bother with the ire of having to develop a talent in their children to make them stage worthy and able to pay the mortgage these days, just trans them and hey presto a SPECIAL money maker in the family, chaching!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:45

I believe our favourite woman’s officer said that they could have a baby.

Now maybe they meant ‘have a baby ... delivered by Deliveroo’ but after reading some of the bayshittery posted online I’m not too sure they didn’t.

nettie434 · 22/09/2019 15:45

As far as I'm aware development blockers (puberty blockers) are administered at Tanner Stage 2, which is between 9 and 11 years old.

Yes, I seem to remember DumondeBetty explaining this on another thread. 9-11 is such a young age. The analogy is not really like getting married with parents' consent, having a tattoo etc. It's more like being able to walk to school on their own or being left alone in the house for half an hour or so.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 15:43

But yeah they have probably been told that womb transplants are just round the corner. Maybe they will become a reality around the same time as brain transplants and then the parents can get in on the action too.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 15:42

I don’t think that’s going to make much difference to young kids. Few young kids think very much about having children as an adult, especially boys. Same with teens.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:38

The child may well believe that they can indeed carry and give birth to a baby. Such is the ‘information’ that is trotted out.

Doyoumind · 22/09/2019 15:35

I hope that mother has explained to her child they will never be able to have biological children of their own. Sure, a 7 year old fully understands the implications of going down this route.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 15:06

There was a case a few years ago where the mum with the help of mermaids was convinced the boy was a transgirl. It went to court and the court found that the mum was emotionally abusive. The boy went to live with his dad and immediately stopped ‘wanting’ to present as female.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 14:45

There was a case where a male child was being cared for by the mum who decided that Dave was Doris.

Dave never said he wanted to be a girl but mum decided he was indeed a girl (this child was older than 7 I think). As this was news to the estranged dad (and probably Dave) he took mum to court to gain custody of the child and Mermaids (for it was they who were ‘helping’ mum turn Dave to Doris) were told to back off and were banned from contact.

It was in the papers - maybe last year?

NatashasDance · 22/09/2019 14:44

Somewhere else in the fail there's a story about Megan Fox (woman who was in Transformers), and her kids - one of whom happily wears dresses to school occasionally, or as halloween costume, visiting Disneyland etc.

Just a couple of asides.

This gushing article with no comments allowed is in the Sunday Mirror, not the Mail stable. If it were in the Mail it is likely that comments would be allowed- and they would not be supportive of the mother.

The Mail stable regularly reports on incidents of violence towards women and children which the liberal media ignores.

The assumption that the Mail and the right wing media are not to be touched is part of why this mess exists.

MoltenLasagne · 22/09/2019 14:42

When I see these articles about transition it always makes me feel as though sexual inversion has raised its head as an ideology again.

Lesbians and gay men fought hard to reject the idea that they were not “inverts” but just as real women and men as everyone else. How the hell has it become progressive to go back to the 1930s?!

Propertyofhood · 22/09/2019 14:42

I agree with teawamutu. There must have been gender stereotypes being enforced in the household for that 'boy/girl' discussion to come up.

Many 3 year olds barely have a comprehension of the differences between boys and girls outside of gender stereotypes. They may well know that boys have a penis and girls have a vulva (not in those words usually), but then to be honest, if a 3 year old child was saying that he was really a girl because he had a hatred of his penis, then I would be suspecting that something else, some sort of abuse, was going on.

However, in this article there is no mention of that. Its all about the little boy saying that he is 'really a girl' because he likes dresses and girls toys.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 14:19

Unless she meant role player a female role. Which is utter nonsense as ‘evidence’ - my sister always role played a boy and she made me do so too!

Datun · 22/09/2019 14:11

How does a child dress up as a mum or a sister? Jeans and jumper maybe? Or something else? And how does that differ from a dad or brother?

Presumably they wear a pinny and play in the kitchen.

Tells you all you need to know.

Orangepearl · 22/09/2019 13:50

Yes this. This is the problem! It’s poor education.

She loves Disney well there you go.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 13:33

teamwamutu very telling.

And Orange, absolutely and seems to be the case here. When she had a boy she immediately decks him out in a full male football kit before he even knows what football is. Yet she herself is ‘girlie’ and ‘loves Disney’ and no doubt believes quite strongly in gender stereotypes. She is kid’s sole parent. Kid starts liking things she likes but she says he must like boy things. Kid gets confused. She feels it’s easier if kid is a girl.

Also telling that the grandma yelled at the mum that ‘I can’t take him out in a dress’. So whole family seems quite attached to gender stereotypes and no doubt burden is lifted now they can say kid is a girl.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 13:30

Yuk - isn’t

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 13:30

This ain’t a fairy tale

teawamutu · 22/09/2019 13:19

I note, without comment, that the mother's twitter bio describes her as being obsessed with Disney.

Orangepearl · 22/09/2019 13:10

I think also in some cases it’s about the parents wanting to be seen to have ‘a girl’ or a ‘boy’.

Don’t want to be seen out with a boy called Thomas wearing dresses it’s all too confusing for them!

Oliversmumsarmy · 22/09/2019 13:08

Friends 3 year old DD thinks she is a dinosaur.

Do we put her in the British Museum as the only living donosaur.

It would be wrong to let her live a lie

youkiddingme · 22/09/2019 13:08

Do schools still have different rules for dress and hair for girls and boys while at the same time accommodating the fact that kids can self ID and need mixed toilets? So you can pick your name, gender, and what loo you want but can't pick your clothes unless you say you are trans?

Orangepearl · 22/09/2019 13:06

Stillathing what a brilliant post, just how I see it.