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YesILikeItToo · 20/09/2019 22:01

The panel seemed to duck the question, ‘Do you believe trans women are women?’ tonight by saying ‘Sure’, ‘Of course’ and (literally) ‘What she said’. Not really acknowledging what issues the question might raise at all.

The questioner tried to have a direct go at David Davies (who had, to be fair, given an answer indicating that he saw that the question needed to be unpacked a bit) by complaining about parliamentary space for meetings, but not many listeners would have appreciated that, I don’t know if the chairman did.

Chairman seemed non plussed, anyway, that the question hadn’t sparked any discussion, and moved things on by mumbling that ‘Perhaps it was one for Any Answers tomorrow’

Went on the radio 4 website to find out who the panellists were but the most interesting thing is to see that the BBC have summarised this as a discussion about the gender recognition act. A lay listener would have had no clue.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2019 22:20

Well, we can all email!

FannyCann · 20/09/2019 22:19

Hope someone from here will be on any answers tomorrow....though it wouldn't surprise me if somehow that was a question that didn't merit a reply.

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2019 22:18

Sorry, I agreed with your last but one post - not the one where you agreed with me Grin

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2019 22:17

I agree, Neurotrash.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/09/2019 22:16

Which might explain the responses

Good point

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/09/2019 22:15

I don't think they understood the question.

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2019 22:15

I'm not entirely sure that it was a woman who asked the question, btw. Which might explain the responses

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/09/2019 22:14

Dammit Lisa. Childhood friend. I expected more!

Redshoeblueshoe · 20/09/2019 22:12

I'm going to have to catch up with that tomorrow. Thanks OP

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2019 22:12

I heard it too. You are right, the uninformed listener would have no idea what they were on about and the Chair was desperate to move things along v quickly.

Panellists were David T C Davies MP, Lisa NandyMP, Liz Saville Roberts MP and Minette Batters, first woman to be head of the National Farmers Union.

The person who asked the question had a right go at David Davies for inviting 'transphobes' into the HOC.

Listen here about 5- 10 mins before the end
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0008jqx

Any Answers is on tomorrow, listeners can respond with their comments.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/B8QptbJ3M2HXfXn2xycKsx/contact-any-answers

TinaBarrow · 20/09/2019 22:12

It was utterly bizarre. "Does the panel agree that transwomen are women.... blah... non-binary is valid?" Panel woman 1 "yes", muted applause from audience. Panel woman 2 "totally", more muted applause. David T Davies: "everybody is valid, but I'm concerned about sex-based protections for women ", no applause. Lisa Nandy: "I agree with the first two answers and not with David". Like nobody except Davies and the woman who asked the question had a fucking clue what was going on. But the audience still clapped when the they thought they should. Goddess help us.

YesILikeItToo · 20/09/2019 22:09

The whole question was along the lines of ‘Do you believe TWAW, TMAM and NB people deserve respect like other people?’

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NeurotrashWarrior · 20/09/2019 22:05

Wow missed this, thanks!

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 20/09/2019 22:05

blimey, the beeb allowed that question through? any answers tomorrow is going to be interesting