Thousands of deaths associated with drugs given to trans children.

Another important bit of the BMJ article:

The HRA [Health Research Authority] said that it doesn’t usually enforce this requirement. However, because of concerns raised, it is now investigating. It has sent all information available to it to a specially formed group to assess the processes followed when ethical approval was granted. The group, comprising senior HRA staff, and supported by a research ethics committee chair and a non-executive director of the authority, is expected to complete its investigation by the end of September.

Will need to keep an eye out for this in the coming weeks.

Great posts Neuro.

Needmore you said: Lots of GPs about to be thrown under the bus for following what so-say experts told them to do?

I think you’re right, and lots of hospital doctors too. That’s going to completely break NHS budgets and the scandal will shatter the trust that patients have in the NHS.
Which is why political lobbies pressuring doctors to prescribe against medical ethics is such a terrible and destructive thing to do and should be ringing alarm bells about this absolutely EVERYWHERE. Not taught in schools FFS.

Fekko because they are spun a lie about suicide.

Fucking A stealth

*The National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) categorize Lupron® as a “hazardous drug” that health care workers should only handle when wearing protective gowns and gloves.12 They also recommend that health care professionals who intend to conceive or father a child avoid handling Lupron® or other such hazardous drug for three months before conception.13

Abbott’s patient education materials note that the FDA advises women who are, or may become, pregnant not to take Lupron® because of the risks to the developing fetus.14 The drug information describes “major fetal abnormalities” seen in pregnant rabbits after Lupron® was injected at doses 1/1200–1/12 the human pediatric dose.15 The company states that women who are pregnant should not use Lupron®, recommends the use non-hormonal contraception to prevent pregnancy while on Lupron®, and encourages those who think they might be pregnant to contact their health care providers immediately.16 The popular website, Drugs.com, states flatly: “Lupron causes birth defects.”17*

Who on gods green earth would any parent want to put their child on strong, long term medication that is not life saving?

We even have kiddy cough syrup. We can’t use a lot of over the counter medicine on children.

but in the vast majority of cases it was when the drug was being used to treat prostate cancer so I'm guessing it was the cancer that killed the patient not the drug

No, the FDA do not simply record deaths on a drug as deaths from the drug. If they did Morphine would be banned as there are millions of deaths while people are having their pain alleviated by Morphine that are due to catastrophic injury, cancer etc. The deaths from these drugs will be those identified as not being due pre-existing conditions.

I'm passionate about this, but find those stats suspect. Even thalidomide killed only (not only but ykwim)2000 and caused defects in 10000 babies, by best estimates.
Also, the FDA is self reporting, and is manipulated by the likes of anti-vaxxers in a lot of their claims.

Lupron etc are awful awful drugs, and I am sure there are serious side effects and even deaths, but I'm not buying those stats, yet.

Oh my goodness. This is absolutely appalling and I cannot believe that parents and doctors are both allowing it to happen. I must admit I honestly don't know much about the issue, I had no idea things were this bad.

In a secondary school now you can't move for it all. It seems like absolutely everything is based around trans. And it's also very obvious that, despite what people may say, it's a trend and it's copied behaviour. I've witnessed 3 students, best friends all the way from primary school, all coming out as 'trans' at the same time. That is no coincidence.

I hate the fact that anyone who dares speak out about this is branded with such horrible names. Thank you for this thread because I have learned a lot and realised that this is a way, way bigger problem than I thought it was.

I can’t link the whole BMJ article because requires a login but take a look at this:

We sought the views of methodologists and clinical trial statisticians, but few were prepared to speak publicly for fear of reprisal. However, they noted that the cohort study had no control group; that outcome measures were not well defined; and that there was no definition of what would constitute a serious adverse event. Similar concerns are common to many studies of puberty blockers in young people with gender dysphoria.4

The experts we spoke to said that the protocol and information sheets were missing potentially significant information. The sheets said, “Hormone blockers will make you feel less worried about growing up in the wrong body and will give you more time and space to think about your gender identity.”

The whole thing is a shocking read and kudos to Deborah Cohen and Hannah Barnes for piecing it all together.

More than 26,000 of the events associated with the two hormone blockers, Leuprolide acetate and triptorelin (which includes Lupron and similar drugs used by clinics), were classified by the federal agency as “serious,” including 6,370 deaths.

This is a very misleading statement. Yes these drugs may have been linked with many deaths but in the vast majority of cases it was when the drug was being used to treat prostate cancer so I'm guessing it was the cancer that killed the patient not the drug.

(The linked website fis.fda.gov breaks down the stats into individual cases)

I am not in favour of medicating healthy children but neither am I in favour of twisting statistics to suit a prior agenda.

I firmly believe the school in Birmingham was purposely targeted by Moffatt

Me too, and it worked.

Like someone else said, I really wish I had been wrong.

I wonder if the keenness to prescribe these drugs is down to the fact that many of the professionals involved are psychologists not medics: they are playing with something they simply don’t understand.

The responsibility for off-label prescribing rests with the prescriber.

Ok, so from what I've read the GPs do the prescribing based on what GIDS tell them. So, who is ultimately responsible here? Sounds like the GP. Lots of GPs about to be thrown under the bus for following what so-say experts told them to do?

The responsibility for off-label prescribing rests with the prescriber.

As I understand it these drugs like Lupron are NOT licensed for use to treat gender dysphoria in children - anyone giving them to children is doing so off label - so the pharma company would not be responsible for any negative outcomes? So who is legally responsible - the prescribing physician? The NHS?

And I was aware that Lupron can have horrendous side effects but I have been reading this and it is horrifying

www.rxlist.com/lupron-drug.htm#side_effects

The drug companies are finding new markets and they are targeting children who are one or more of:

• (potentially) homosexual
• autistic
• abused

The impact this ideology is having on vulnerable children causes me more anger than any other aspect.

Aha. Perhaps the latter? I can't find any other article in the BMJ by those authors.

Jolly good. Hopefully this will get noticed, then.

The BMJ report/article looks like a follow up to this Newsnight from July (I can't access the full BMJ article/paper/whatever it is).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49036145

The only positive I can find in any of this is that the BMJ is important and taken seriously, so even just getting some skepticism in there matters and is possibly a sign that the trans narrative may be beginning to lose its grip.

Oh this looks absolutely awful.