Douglas Murray 'The White Lies of the Gay Press'

Google these words exactly:
Black women murdered in 2019.
Then come back to me.

Blimey.
DuckDuckGo gives different results... but along the same lines.
Yahoo (U.K. at that) similar..
Bing ... similar.

Backintheclosit, that is utterly bizarre. 10 out of 10, wtf?
I like Murray, he is thoughtful and thought provoking though in a different place on the political spectrum. I don't know when the left got so lazy and lacking in intellectual rigour but I despair of them. Most of them don't even know what left is.

I've just listened to 'Across the Red Line'. I'm probably very shallow, but I found the format incredibly irritating.

And the woke brigade are so dim-witted that they are utterly unaware that they are backing one of the biggest capitalism shows on earth - powerful men's sexual rights.

This.^^

Men are so bloody good at putting out the spin to promote their sexual wants. The reason the trans lobby is doing so well in such a short space of time is exactly the same reason so many people have been gaslit into accepting the very swift normalisation of porn and the violence therein over the last couple of decades.

Swamping the new medium of the internet with ever more extreme sexual content, removing stigma through sheer 'weight of numbers' usage, normalising it for all the males who view it, and then persuading the younger generation of women that men's new wants are standard sexual practice. Older women who remember sex as it used to be are ignored as per usual.

The same sort of mechanism is being used to rapidly normalise AGP fetish dressed up as (pun intended) transgender rights, then follows the gaslighting of younger woke people and the dim-witted who like to virtue-signal by tribal affiliation rather than apply critical thinking. Misogynist men are happy to play along given that it involves taking rights away from uppity women. Older women who remember gender-bending and feminism as it used to be are ignored as per usual.

My mum always voted Labour and my dad Conservative. They had similar values though and just supported different ways of achieving them. They were both brought up in NE England council estates.

Well someone did once say it's not a political spectrum, it's a circle or horseshoe, where the extreme left and extreme right eventually meet back up again.

I like that Murray does his research. I shall buy the book.

I think many right and left wing people have the sam aims. In many cases all that differs is what they think is the best way to avhieve the aim

Bingo.

I think many right and left wing people have the sam aims. In many cases all that differs is what they think is the best way to avhieve the aim

I like Douglas Murray very much and am looking forward to reading his latest book.

In the Strange Death Of Europe I thought his account of going to Lampedusa meeting migrants and sharing their stories was really moving. He's a compassionate man and it's unnerving to see people write him off as 'right winger'. He strikes me as a writer who cares very much about people.

As well as the interview linked upthread, Murray is interviewed by Rod Liddel in his 'Liddel's got issues' section. I don't think there's a way to link to that.

Camilla Long's column has two sections not unrelated - one on Trudeau and one on the 'gender neutral baby.

The PC left will need a tad more whitewash to convince us Trudeau’s not a racist

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-pc-left-will-need-a-tad-more-whitewash-to-convince-us-trudeau-s-not-a-racist-gfw92cgjn?shareToken=18ffce9b8f4b18b21b06e946b574155d

Douglas Murray's book 'The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity' is reviewed in the Guardian this weekend. Fair to say the reviewer doesn't like it...

I thought this was interesting:

"For me, again, there is a consumerist aspect here. Telling people they can be anything is the same as saying they can have anything. It’s an advertising pitch and it is plainly false. So poor baby Anoush has not been liberated, “they” has been trapped into buying something that cannot be sold".

It is true.

And a wider point is that lots of retailers (big pharma, gender 'experts', plastic surgeons, inclusion consultants) have commodities to sell. And this market is almost entirely unregulated so sexual fetishists and paedophiles find it ridiculously easy to infiltrate and sell their own wares under the blanket of "inclusion".

And the woke brigade are so dim-witted that they are utterly unaware that they are backing one of the biggest capitalism shows on earth - powerful men's sexual rights.

His fear is that woke will provoke a backlash. In America he has noticed a renewed interest in IQ studies. These were once used as a racist weapon, primarily against black people. If the wokeists go on torturing people, then, inevitably, some people will strike back and they won’t be nice people.

From the Times interview.

I mean, if a right winger like Murray has the same fears of a far right backlash as me, a dyed-in-the-wool leftist feminist - why is nobody in authority listening?

Right wing gay men ARE gay men!

I can't stand Douglas - but when he turns his ire to something he does have a brilliantly withering turn of phrase.

This book is reviewed by Lionel Shriver in The Times too, here:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bcb36f2c-dadd-11e9-a836-b8a7068a08fb

Douglas Murray also was one of the guests on Radio 4's Across the Red Line (there's another thread about this somewhere) well worth a listen. It was repeated on the World Service last night at some point and woke me from my insomniac half-sleep! He nailed so much of the insidious creep of the trans ideology movement, from their piggybacking the "hardware issue" of intersex, the political power grab that underlies it, and the mutilation of language leading people to being forced into lying.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008j7m

BBC Radio 4 18 Sept 2019
Across the Red Line, Series 4 called Does Identitiy politics cause more problems than it solves?
Just started to listen to this interesting discussion between Douglas Murray, and Nasrene Malik of Guardian.

That is bizarre. I knew Google had drunk the cool aid but not to that extent, although maybe no-one has done a count of how many black women have been murdered because it isn't an unusual event sadly

doobigetta Google these words exactly:
Black women murdered in 2019.
Then come back to me.

Excellent article. I bought the audiobook to listen to on a long car journey tomorrow. Gay women have failed to get the politicians and institutions to listen, let's see if gay men have any more success. Straight men and women are getting nowhere. The video is interesting when he blames left wing politics. Not sure I agree with that. The most powerful and well financed trans people were/are male to female middle aged American capitalists

Sunday Times has an interview with Douglas Murray today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/douglas-murray-interview-the-tyranny-of-woke-thinking-has-caught-us-all-napping-m320scblv?shareToken=14cbabc19c71b03be871bb3ea32e0869

I totally think politics has harmonics.

I find myself “rhyming” with people like Douglas Murray, even though I’m far apart from them politically. Maybe politics has harmonics to it, in an analogous way to music?

I'm not on the same side, politically, as Douglas, but I did enjoy this. I had a good old chortle at "Afua Hirsch who is the author of a memoir about her own upbringing, in which she describes how she managed to flee the badlands of Wimbledon only to suffer in the hood of Oxford University."

"I read a quotation in an Amazon review of his book that claimed that if you do a Google image search for “gay couples” you see lots of aspirational photos of happy smiling gay couples. I tested this. It is correct."
If you do an image search for 'gay couples' they are almost all male couples. So, despite all the claims that 'gay' is inclusive, it is so outrageously male dominated that just shows it ain't true. And all those former lesbians eagerly calling themselves gay, or even queer (or whatever other thing is the in phrase today for those females who are attracted to other females, assuming such a discriminatory sexual orientation still exists.........) are just helping it along.

Mind you, I tried another term and also got some amusing pictures of that chap who appeared in both Mary Poppins films...............