“Woman” convicted of sexually assaulting teen girl (“she” was apparently masturbating in front of “her” victim)

"As an aside, I wonder what men actually see when they look at us."

Please I tell you, we can see. Even the 'woke' ones see it hence the "I see transwomen as women except for relationship purposes".

I imagined that I would always be able to tell, but I watched Naked Attraction the other day (SO wierd) and didn't realise the apparently female contestant was a TW. They looked like a very made up conventionally presenting woman. They had a very annoying manner and talked about their fanny A LOT. But then at the end you got to see them naked, and that was the wierdest thing of all, the over all body shape was very male, with two very small breasts and a shaven 'vulva'
so, in the end, my sense that I would always be able to identify a TW when clothed was shaken. Of course IRL it might be different.

But I was freaked out before I even saw her

There would have been something in the sound or movement near you, even if you can't quite put your finger on what exactly it was.

And women are primed to recognise males near them.

Interesting.

I was in the ladies toilets and a largely male event once, toilets were a little way away from the main area where everyone was. I had my back to the door washing my hands when I heard the door open, and got this instant feel that I had to get out NOW. Turned round and came face to face with a transwoman - who probably went and tweeted about how she'd freaked out a 'transphobic cis-woman'. But I was freaked out before I even saw her

I wonder if this could be the same person?

ca.linkedin.com/in/jackie-laronde-a4528365

"I think you’re into something about the decision to publish mugshots with the caption. Here’s one I saw on Twitter yesterday. Canada, obvs."

Here is the story to go with that and it really is not a very nice one. It would seem that Canada is a place which I will no longer look forward to visiting. The reporting has to change on these cases, because it is clear misrepresentation of facts.

torontosun.com/news/provincial/kingston-woman-acquitted-in-bdsm-child-case

So much of how women are viewed, by men, is purely fetishistic.

As an aside, I wonder what men actually see when they look at us

It would appear that many just see superficial characteristics and judge on the basis of those. Women appear as 'icons' of femininity ( or 'lack' of femininity) and whatever social codes that 'femininity' represents.

Handbags, heels, hair and tits, from what I can gather.

Although some do register an actual fellow human.

As an aside, I wonder what men actually see when they look at us.

Many do seem deluded re passing privilege. Whatever they see in the mirror is not what women see. I don't think many pass, but there's a generally a clue that gives it away, from the blatantly obvious as in the case of Alex Drummond, to the subtleties, the way they present, walk, talk. And women are primed to recognise males near them. It's instinctive, a survival technique. Of course many men and trans women mock this, because they don't have this instinct. They never needed it, being born male n'all.

I hope it peaks the journalists.

I think you’re into something about the decision to publish mugshots with the caption. Here’s one I saw on Twitter yesterday. Canada, obvs.

It does suggest that many trans women are deluded about how they appear to others. Many must seriously think they pass. Being so self absorbed means that there is little awareness of the true response and reality of others.

The picture says it all.

You will never convince most people that the emperor has clothes, no matter how desperately organisations, policy makers, politicians, celebs, woke bros or AGPs want to be validated or liked.

None of this helps women, though, when some idiots in power make rules that put women and children at risk, that manipulate crime statistics, place men in women's prisons or wipe out hideous crimes that were committed when 'Jill' was Jack.

Just look at the 'It never happens' resource thread.

Agree with previous suggestions. I've written to council, MP, child's school, organisations, posted leaflets, peaked colleagues, including those in HR, and dug my heels in to make sure my work place does not make the women's toilets mixed sex.

@HelloYouTwo there's loads you can do, I call or desktop activism as like you I can't head off to marches, much as I'd like to.

I wrote to my MP a LOT, you can complete the surrogacy consultation in about 10 mins using the Nordic model guidance. You can also write to complain about the consultation not being comprehensive or fit for purpose. You can submit freedom of information requests and write to your local media. Are you with ReSisters or a local GC group? As I can't get out to meet up with other women I find this online support (and MN) really helpful. I donate where I can also but even getting 'sex' to replace 'gender' where you see it on forms etc is a small act of rebellion (which I think is the name of a thread here so check out that too!)

You can do a lot and everything you do helps.

Janice Turner tweeted about this and more or less said the same about the choice to publish pictures with the story. Replies were excellent.

I don't know why, but whenever I see photos like this linked to stories like this, the phrase that comes into my head is: You ain't no Muslim, bruv.

Legal documentation does not change biology though, or the truth we can see with our eyes.

"Trans-women are legally, medically, and culturally women"

Legally only if the transgender person has the necessary legal documentation.

Must be a joke, it would never happen.

Stunning and brave.

Thousands of years of evolution to tell males from females is now 'ignorant prejudice'?

Cuckoo

WTF is culturally a woman anyway?