Best wishes to Kate in court today

I know the clock is ticking down on this hole, Kate. But when it runs out, start another. Okay?

Yes, please do, there are several pay days between now and February.

Many of us look at what has been done to you and know it could just as easily have happened to any one of us. It's particularly galling when we can all see that violence against women and girls aren't always taken seriously police, and when we know that really serious crimes like rapes and stalking cases are being dropped without any action taken. Almost as if the evidence necessary to drag a mother away from her children and bang her up in a cell is much lower than what is needed to go after a rapist or stalker.

Also, you might want to set it up on crowd justice next time. People are wary after "mattressgate" and there are people who won't donate to crowdfunder that are willing to shell out knowing the money can only be spent on covering legal expenses.

It could be one of us arrested in front of our children next. Locked in a cell to to leak breastmilk and bleed everywhere. And then hauled repeatedly back to court.

I've dug a little, wish I could do more. Somerville put it so succinctly above. Kate, sending my support.

I've done most of the litigation on the civil side alone so a solicitor shouldn't have to do too much, so hoping that'll keep fees within the acceptable range, just need to find one that'll take me, I've been begging for months with no luck.

We are awaiting further advices from the criminal lot to update the existing hole because this is a novel charge, and an emerging area of law which could impact everyone.

I really can't thank everyone enough for donating, I slept much better last night (between being booted in the face and grabbed at by Co sleeping toddler) and I have all that donated to thank for that

I know the clock is ticking down on this hole, Kate. But when it runs out, start another. Okay?

Just for everyone to keep raising their voices or pens where they can and fight this ideology for us all please 😁

I may have had a little spillage into a hole. Best Wishes Kate - Is there any other practical support you need in addition to spillages I wonder?

for you Kate

♥️

Ah Kate.
It could be one of us arrested in front of our children next. Locked in a cell to to leak breastmilk and bleed everywhere. And then hauled repeatedly back to court.

I just wish I had more spades so I could dig in for you repeatedly.
Unmumsnetty (((hugs)))

Kate here, hello.

First off, huge thank you for the support, you've no idea how much this has helped. I am unable to say much given the past years actions on me, but I have been trying since my arrest to secure legal help, I have been let down badly, and have had to litigate in person because I refused to ask others to pay.

My husband saw me break down and decided enough was enough and so the CF was born. I have been fighting since September 2018, and I have not courted this, or promoted this.

Thank you to all who have donated, I have been able to secure criminal representation because of your generosity and I will never forget it.

I also have civil action against me, so a double whammy! This has had a profound effect on my life, and it's still lingering, but one day at a time is working for me!

Again thank you thank you thank you ❤️

Yes, I agree that this thread should be about Kate.

I responded to comments about me. No more than that, and have said I really don't want to get drawn into it.

Amalfinna. Is a pro bono lawyer completely off the table at this point?

Keeping the focus on Kate on a thread started to show support for Kate sounds like a good plan all round. Good point OP.

Are all these cases caused by the same - ahem - person?

. I am,of course, concerned that Kate's life is not completely overtaken by this. Why, though, is she representing herself? Is a pro Bono lawyer a possibility?

Kate has been defending her self for over a year as people made promises to her that they didn't keep.

That means, as litigant in person, she had direct contact with the person suing her and if their Twitter rants are anything to go by that wouldn't be an easy or stress-free task.

Personally I've had Kate on the phone to me in tears over the worry and the stress that this, and other situations, have her under. A woman with pnd under this kind of stress for over a year with no support from home or indeed people in the position to support her takes its toll.

I'm happy to help dig a hole and am revving my mini digger as we speak. However, it didn't come with a GPS (bastards) so if someone could pm me directions to any holes that need digging, I'd be most grateful.

Can we please stop with who is more urgent? This is not a competition. I am,of course, concerned that Kate's life is not completely overtaken by this. Why, though, is she representing herself? Is a pro Bono lawyer a possibility?

I have 14 days to provide an initial response to Hayden's claim, and I want to leave that to my solicitor/barrister. After that, things will be in motion.

I'm stepping away from comments about other funds. It's off-putting. None of us should be in this situation, and I am so very very grateful for the support I'm receiving. I'm going to update about my fund today, but won't be drawn into discussions about it on here which benefit no-one.
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I am glad these women are being supported financially. Where does their accuser get the money from to bring these cases?

If Louise has to respond to something in 14 days and Kate has until February then Louise is more urgent just now

No, Kate is next in criminal court in February but she has to pay legal bills in 10 days time. Kate has already appeared (several times) in civil court, where she represented herself. (And this will presumably resume after criminal case.)

Kate can’t speak about any of these matters so this is my understanding based on closely following the journalists covering her ongoing situation - she’s had well over a year of this overtaking her whole life at this point.

I’m thrilled Louise has now filled her hole - what great news, Louise.

Thanks for wanting to help with Kate’s hole -
I’m sure someone will be in touch with link.

I’m sure Kate is incredibly grateful for all this support and would love to say that herself if it weren’t for the legal restrictions enforcing her absolute silence.

So many generous and wonderful women in this fight. It’s making me quite emotional.

Can someone direct mail me links for both Kate and Louise? If Louise has to respond to something in 14 days and Kate has until February then Louise is more urgent just now (though am I reading she is now ok?) but it is shocking that both these women have been put in this position. The months of worry, livelihoods, cost etc because of a vexatious litigant.

Before both of these cases we have Maya’s and Harry’s it is important these win too. Winning these should also help Louise and Kate.

I've happily dug for both Kate and Louise.

Kate's hole has a sooner use by date so I'll prioritise that for a second spadeful.

louise

Please point out the exact message where I said you and your fund hijacked Kate's.

The comments from this morning have got nothing to do with you and the only comment I did make about your hole had your name on it.

If anything is likely to put people off looking for or digging in Kate's hole (🤨) it'll be snide passive aggressive comments targeting other women in similar positions, or alluding to some bullshit playground arguments. Pack it in. Honestly. You're doing her no favours at all. Quite the opposite.