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Best wishes to Kate in court today

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happydappy2 · 18/09/2019 09:47

I really hope the outcome is fair to women and upholds free speech.

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Amalfimamma · 20/09/2019 08:38

Morning all. Kate has finished her masters even through all the pressure and stress she was and is subjected to over the past 12 months.

Who wants to dig as means of offering her a gin for all her hard work and resilience?

teawamutu · 20/09/2019 07:06

It feels a bit Handmaid's Tale-y, but I do find it properly inspiring when women (and the odd ally) come together like this. Like Lang, I'll be digging after paydays and will be really proud to do so.

SeaWitchly · 19/09/2019 22:15

Have just popped in to say I have dug some more of Kate’s hole Grin
Will present with my spade at Louise’s hole later today. Sending all my best wishes as one of your Aussie allys x

missedith01 · 19/09/2019 21:36

Good luck Kate. I've done a bit of work on the hole.

For those of us who dip in and out, is there an easy-to-find explanation for Mumsnet's attitude to digging holes?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 19/09/2019 20:45

Could the Law Society help find a solicitor? It is awful if none are prepared to act (yet seem fine to act for paedophiles and other awful characters). Though I do remember someone divorcing a solicitor had to go over 50 miles away to find one represent her.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 19/09/2019 20:24

Oh Fekko Flowers

KatvonHostileExtremist · 19/09/2019 20:23

Hoping Kate is sleeping better. I can't think of anything worse than being attacked by this vexatious person.

My spade will be utilised after payday too.

Side note, the KF thread on Hayden, is surreal. It reminds me of when all the crazy stuff went down here, with the characters themselves popping up, and sock puppets galore.

zebrasdontwearbras · 19/09/2019 20:21

New posters are welcomed, unless they make it obvious they're here to stir up trouble.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/09/2019 20:20

I had an actual penguin biscuit today - but puked it up again.

Zombiearmageddon · 19/09/2019 20:18

Feel free to have a read of Article 10. And maybe find some more money for the Fair Cop funder as well as now four women's.

I am new on MN. I didn't know posting under someone else's thread meant you're only allowed to say what they give you permission to think. Is this where everyone starts talking about biscuits?

happydappy2 · 19/09/2019 20:05

zombie feel free to start yr own thread in AIBU

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Zombiearmageddon · 19/09/2019 19:57

@happydappy2 Funnily enough, I just texted a friend to say I'd posted on here for the first time and predicted 'we see you' as the first response. The next is generally something about policing women's speech. And then a collective attack about earning your chops as a regular so what right does a newbie have to say anything at all to the old guard. That's why I don't post here. Because you can guarantee someone who doesn't like what you have to say will silence you with soundbites and sneer. I don't like what happened here. Someone had a think about launching a crowdfunder the night before a longstanding victim went into court. And then went ahead anyway. It would have been considerate to have waited a couple of nights, maybe a week - there's no rush, the bills won't be in for ages. Poor old Kate, meanwhile, has no voice whatsoever, has been chucked off Twitter, can't even say this creature's name and the one day she has when actions speak for themselves is not stolen from her but, to my mind, certainly encroached upon - to quite the degree looking at the huge sum that went elsewhere. I think it's a really poor show and I'm entitled to say it whether or not I have the old guard's permission.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 19/09/2019 19:33

Pleased to see that things are progressing steadily for Kate.

happydappy2 · 19/09/2019 19:31

zombie yr entirely missing the point, this is about support for Kate, nothing else. I see you trying to pit women against each other.

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Zombiearmageddon · 19/09/2019 18:53

I'm a light browser and don't post but I'm wondering if this thread isn't better off in AIBU, like those "AIBU my best friend announced her engagement at my wedding" type posts. I'm bewildered why someone would launch a crowdfunder at exactly the same time as another woman walks into court for the first time in her action that's been going on a year while theirs is all of five days old. Surely everyone knows that increased prominence/press coverage is when the money comes in so to put your cause slap back in the middle of it seems really... well, unfair on Kate. Few people would have the money to give to both so to split the funds between two at exactly the same time like this seems rather odd. The new one could easily have waited and given Kate her moment. Especially when you start off stating upfront you can afford to pay for representation yourself as you did everything guaranteed to ensure you'd need it.

It's not true that the pockets just expand to accommodate all the hands dipping in. The more hands, the less money and now there are four women and one man all looking for help from the same people. Poor Kate. There's no doubt her kitty would have suffered yesterday as people rushed to give to the new victim. What a rum do.

Somerville · 19/09/2019 18:21
Gin
FannyCann · 19/09/2019 17:57

Utterly shocking that only one barrister would help.

Yes, it's almost like lawyers don't want to risk being seen to challenge the gender orthodoxy.
The Vancouver waters had a similar problem.

Thank goodness you've found a good one.

BustedWench · 19/09/2019 17:42

Justice ⚖️ and Gin 🍸(had to improvise)

GenderApostate19 · 19/09/2019 17:25

Utterly shocking that only one barrister would help.

I don’t know how you’ve kept it together Kate, you have my utmost respect and admiration.

Joisanofthedales · 19/09/2019 17:15

Helped Kate to sleep better. Helped Louise too.

FannyCann · 19/09/2019 16:53

Ditto what Lang said.

LangCleg · 19/09/2019 16:25

Yes, please do, there are several pay days between now and February.

Exactly. I have my monthly pot I can afford and would be happy to - no, really, really want to - include you in it for October, November, December and January. Multiple holes are good.

PurpleCrowbar · 19/09/2019 16:17

Have swung a shovel Wink

teawamutu · 19/09/2019 16:02

Done a little digging, Kate. Will buy a nice new shovel after pay day.

All power to you.

BustedWench · 19/09/2019 15:14

Mattress gate, yes. I was offered money from a fund for someone else, I originally declined the funds because I still had no idea what was happening legally or criminally. I was then emailed that I needed to send ID to confirm I had authorised someone else to receive the funds. I was then made aware that the other recipient was a lady who had pleaded poverty and accepted money from many women, and some who could ill afford to be parted with such funds. I'm a moralistic and transparent person and just wanted that made clear but this presented as an issue to those involved, but thankfully, all those monies reached a very worthy charity indeed, so all was not lost!

I tried to set up a crowd justice but you need solicitors to complete that, and there were none who would take me or even respond. I am also under an injunction so I have been hammered from all angles and no one wanted to help much. Thank goodness for one radfem criminal barrister who has gone above and beyond to help me secure excellent representation, which can now be fully funded because of you all.

I'm sorry I upset others about matressgate but I wanted to ensure everyone who donated knew what was happening but that was not acceptable to some.

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