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Best wishes to Kate in court today

416 replies

happydappy2 · 18/09/2019 09:47

I really hope the outcome is fair to women and upholds free speech.

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CodenameVillanelle · 19/09/2019 07:17

Kate's hole was started by her husband who didn't describe the hole in very supportive terms. I wonder if that has put some feminists off the idea of helping to dig. It shouldn't, but you know.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/09/2019 07:06

They were in the court and then just left. Noone knows why and it's all very wierd

Intimidation.

Or not understanding court procedure?

The bad character thing is interesting - I hope it is allowed as it is very relevant in this case. Would this also allow the defence to point out that Hayden is somewhat of a vexatious litigant?

CadburysTastesVileNow · 19/09/2019 06:54

Have found the right hole and made it a little bigger. Thanks all for bringing this back to the top

Amalfimamma · 19/09/2019 06:09

lousie

Seeing as your hole is dug, will you be closing it and sending people to dog Kate's hole seeing that that is much more urgent?

WelshMoth · 19/09/2019 05:47

Same. Want to buy a spade. It's time to increase our support. Can anyone please DM me a link.

Joisanofthedales · 18/09/2019 23:42

I will be supporting Kate and Louise with donations tomorrow. I hate what this person is doing to them and other women.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 18/09/2019 23:01

Late to this thread but another sending support to Kate and her children. This case is important to all of us.

Off to google things that can't be mentioned.

DrLouiseMoody · 18/09/2019 22:37

I don't know what's going on but want to stress that I'm completely behind Kate, and will donate very soon (payday on Fri!). This isn't a competition, and it benefits us all to support each other. It is outrageous that one individual can invade our lives like this with their bullying tactics.

LangCleg · 18/09/2019 22:10

A "bad character application" is asking the court for permission to introduce evidence about a witness's bad character. Discrediting a witness or defendant for stuff that isn't specifically germane to a case isn't allowed unless counsel has sought permission.

Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:57
  • This should have read NOT guilty
Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:56

I'm really confused. Can someone write a short factual statement on what happened today?

This is Joanie's summary of the court proceedings. H wasn't there, but did go to the court building earlier.

"Right, I'll do a thread on the #katescottow hearing but I'm going to keep some things back because I don't get paid for attending these hearings or pretty much any of the research I do - sorry, but times is tough - and gal needs wedge

Kate pleaded guilty*. The trial date is set for two days from 6 Feb. The prosecution asked for a delay as the counsel they wanted on the case starts a 6wk hearing on the original date of 20 Jan but were denied.

Discussing timings defence said there is quite a lot of disclosure pending. They don't feel there's much for prosecution witness to say as it's all in the tweets but because of extensive bad character that would extend time required. #katescottow

Defence said they would be making a bad character application but can't bring it until they've seen the relevant material. Referenced multiple previous convictions. #katescottow

Here's a link to the court report of the Miranda Yardley trial that hasn't been published before (plus the first ROGD story that was spiked) joaniwalsh.com/uks-first-transphobia-trial-thrown-out-trans-defendant-says-it-was-the-worst-10-months-of-my-life/…"

Melroses · 18/09/2019 21:51

That port sounds lovely Fekko - hope your flu subsides soon.

TerfTalk · 18/09/2019 21:51

I'm really confused. Can someone write a short factual statement on what happened today?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/09/2019 21:42

Aww shucks... I’ve gone to bed with a large glass of port (works a treat!)

FannyCann · 18/09/2019 21:26

Thanks to all supporting Kate. I'll be digging a bit deeper before the month is out.

owlonabike · 18/09/2019 21:24

Thanks for PMs, people.

Amalfimamma · 18/09/2019 21:20

Frekko

Flowers Wine and Cake

I probably should have pmed you but my anger got the better of me hope you're felling better soon

Amalfimamma · 18/09/2019 21:19

Fanny

Hayden was present but didn't enter the courtroom. They were in the court and then just left. Noone knows why and it's all very wierd.

FannyCann · 18/09/2019 21:16

This is just getting more confusing - I thought Hayden was a no show, but there was a witness present. And Hayden was the witness?

Maybe I can get some answers 🥝

zebrasdontwearbras · 18/09/2019 21:14

Ah of course. Thanks, Somerville. I was a bit confused when someone said neither of the H's were in court.

Hugs always for Kate and those supporting her - I know what it's like - I've been there. I supported a friend in court through various cases with her vile ex-H - both as a witness and Mckenzie friend. Respect to you all Thanks

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/09/2019 21:12

No worries - I’m not firing on all today but was following Kate via Joani today. It’s a bloody disgrace, it really is.

Buttonhold · 18/09/2019 21:09

What's with the Mac reference above?

Somerville · 18/09/2019 21:07

The witness is Hayden.

It’s been a very long and stressful day for the people supporting Kate at court. Thanks to all of them, and to everyone who cares enough to post on this thread -it’s clear now that all motives were good - and to everyone who contributed with their shovel.

owlonabike · 18/09/2019 21:05

Someone, obvs.

owlonabike · 18/09/2019 21:04

Need a bit of exercise- maybe digging with Kate. Could some please dm me with directions to said hole. TIA.