Middle ground

I had to go through pages and pages of comments like yours before anyone who was not angered too much by someone who isn't a "regular" asking the question to link it

???. But why then go through pages and pages for an answer to a question that you didn't have?

Unless this is just all as Lang says, fillibustering nonsense.

Sloes - never ever suck a sloe. Ever.

And still waiting for those extreme views. Much like the questions, nowhere to be found. Weird huh?

Glad HDDD to see that you've found all the suggestions useful. Initially I found it really depressing as I worked through all the different aspects of this - reading, thinking and initially lurking on here, But I was captivated by the sheer commitment and integrity of so many women challenging this - along with picking up the occasional recipe along the way

I can answer questions.at least till I get sleepy.

As an aside, sloes don’t taste nice

Tentacle no, I didn't. There are things I don't fully understand but I'm not going to ask questions on a thread full of people who vocally don't want to answer them.

Ive not eaten a sloeberry...just infused gin with it

Though there were loads of blackberries when we were picking them...tempted to try and make blackberry gin

I don't believe I've ever tasted a sloeberry. Has to be better than juniper though.

I don't have a question

You said earlier you had a question.

Sorry HDDD

Got distracted by alcohol

And sugar

After 4 weeks the sugar will be dissolved and you can start tasting

When you are happy with it you take the sloes out

No problem HDDD, glad you've had some useful responses.

If you had any idea of the times I have patiently explained to hundreds of people, who didn't tell me I was doing it wrong, you'd perhaps rethink that statement.

No I wouldn't? I wasn't being sarcastic - you said it was annoying being asked over and over, I've said I won't ask then. I'm really struggling to see what you're taking issue with at this point.

I don't have a question, I said many questions get a hostile respond so most don't ask or ask once and never again.

I haven't asked anything of any of you, just commented on a wider trend. Why can't you just let it lie?

Sloes. Plus sugar. Plus gin. Don't pay CK the sloes until the first frost though.

I hear ya. I was just trying to establish the female TRA thing and ponder how to get more women onside, those in the 'it's happening/happened over there, it doesn't/hasn't affect(ed) me' camp (which I was pre GRA)

So what are the extreme views that you referenced in the opening post?

Sloeberries

What's the stuff in the bottom of the bottles?

Liqueur

Spell check hates me

Sorry..ipad case went into full on attack mode

Its more like a liquor so very smooth and rich

Ive had it with red wine or apple juice or prosecco

Yum (in 4 to 6 weeks)

What's the difference, rufus?

People do understand that users don't actually have the ability to reorganize MN forums as they see fit?

I'd pin a bunch of stuff if I was in charge, but I am not.

Sloe gin is the way to go kittens

Just started two bottles

I dont like gin...but i can put away a lot of sloe gin

But I have long since conceded that patience is too annoying for the people on here so I will disengage with the subject

If you had any idea of the times I have patiently explained to hundreds of people, who didn't tell me I was doing it wrong, you'd perhaps rethink that statement.

What do you want

You said you had a question. So ask it.

Tentacle

Ah I see, apologies to Datun then, that comment slipped the net as by that point I had so many angry paragraphs to respond to. Which is obviously what I have been trying to say happens to lots of people on these threads.

Tbh I've made it very clear what I want. At first I wanted to reach out a hand to OP and say I've found the same thing, since then I've mainly wanted to be left alone. I completely understand why women will feel annoyed and won't want to spend their time educating others on this subject, I've been there myself around other topics, and other posters have eloquently explained why the tension is there between veterans and beginners. I respect that. I have no desire to spend all night arguing with people I basically agree with but who are understandably too angry with the situation to see it.

The only point I ever wanted to make was that it's a shame it's so hard to find the actual information and that if people are tired of explaining it, but still care about more people joining the cause, then a lot more people might become clued up if the annoyed regulars just ignored the comments asking for guidance rather than swamping them with snark and anger, because somebody will probably be along that doesn't mind eventually. It is ultimately counterproductive to getting enough voices behind the cause. It is the snark that I objected to, not the not answering.

But I have long since conceded that patience is too annoying for the people on here so I will disengage with the subject, yet this is not enough for you. What do you want?