Easy as PIE – the rebranding of paedophilia (and how twitter is complicit)

Safe Schools Alliance put out an excellent Twitter thread on this:

This @MStarOnline article is a must-read for teachers, parents & school leaders. It explores the horrifying efforts to normalise & rebrand paedophilia in society today. #CSE #CSA #safeguarding

^@PeterTatchell’s continuing attempts to influence Relationship & Sex Ed guidelines is alarming. Here, he is unable to recognise Child Sexual Exploitation. Instead, he seems to suggest that sex with adults is a rite of passage for gay children. #RSE #CSE bit.ly/2mbrvLH^

Safe Schools Alliance are also disgusted by the increasing number of accounts on @Twitter which belong to paedophiles who tweet about their sexual attraction to children. They unashamedly use acronyms such as MAP (minor attracted person) and AOA (age of attraction).

It is particularly worrying that these accounts frequently use gender identity jargon (describing themselves as 'cis' or 'trans' and listing their preferred pronouns). Some use the ‘genderbread person’ (a resource used by #Mermaids in schools) as their profile picture.

It is essential that anybody working with children adheres to Safer Recruitment principles and operates in a culture of ongoing vigilance. They must be aware that even those with good intentions may be under the influence of individuals or organisations with nefarious motives.

@Twitter's policy states: 'discussions related to child exploitation...or attraction to minors are permitted, provided they don’t glorify CSE in any way'. Despite the half-hearted caveat, this is appalling & an example of the current normalisation of padeophilia in society.

A society that does not protect children has lost its way. It is time to oppose the normalisation of child sexual exploitation & abuse in the strongest possible terms. #CSE #CSA #safeguarding

We would like to offer our solidarity to @JacquiDillon and thank her for speaking out. We also thank @MStarOnline for their ongoing commitment to responsible journalism. Thank you to @BeckRdAlliance for bringing this to our attention.

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That link re Islington scandal is really disturbing, the top down silencing of what was happening and those poor children. Horrific.
In particular, the social workers who simply didn’t see the problem before their eyes because they didn’t seem to realise these problems could exist! It’s the same now, we seem to have people from privileged backgrounds working for charities supporting people’s rights to wank off in fetish gear in loos, seeing no harm in asking vulnerable children to contact them directly via emails, the woke brigade frolicking with fetishes in the name of inclusivity.
I do wonder if this is a class issue- those in the middle classes taking positions in academia or the charity sector ; who are so far removed from the issues they claim to care about that they are blind to the consequences of their ‘right on’ leanings, who can place such a high value on personal expression and none at all on people who will pay the price. Or maybe it’s just that most people simply haven’t realised the consequences of what is happening.

Wow that stumbledin posted article is disgusting as to what happened next. How any government could see it fit to appoint Margaret Hodge as specifically Childrens Minister beggars belief. If most people were aware of such details there would be riots but of course most people don’t or couldn’t if they tried keep abreast of all these stories. Fair play to the Evening Standard but even their campaigning went over most people’s heads at the time including mine. I remember some criticism at the time but not the specifics so was obviously focused on other things at the time like most normal people

Even if such history was not considered a never ending impediment to serving in government (people make mistakes right?) it’s beyond crass to give them a children’s minister position and not some more boring DEFRA or transport type position.

These politicians and their crony party activists just don’t get it don’t they? No comeuppance or anything close to resembling it indeed.

If you're wrong for the "right" reasons you're still wrong, and your good intentions do nothing to protect those who your being wrong harms.

And the victims of this are ... repeatedly... children.
Just as children are being targeted now. In plain sight. With the full knowledge and consent of all political parties.

Unfortunately these type of crew never admit to being part of what happened when the narrative shifts. There will be the ‘lessons are there to be learned’ statement.

Yes. There will be the ritual handwringing and then the mutual backslapping over the next idiocy will continue on. Cycle unbroken.

Apparently being wrong for the right reasons seems to completely absolve yourself for any wrongdoings. It’s why Antifa activists get a woke pass for being far more violent for the people they are ‘counter’ protesting against. Like when a bunch of sad 20 idiots who either should just get ignored or shamed in the press (they don’t tend to try and disguise their identity) get assaulted by 10 times more warrior types wearing the scarves and are applauded for it.

The world is turning upside down when I begin to have a small amount of sympathy for the ‘far right’ but then that’s an easy label to get these days. The feminist Mumsnet board is far right too.

Saying stand up for women or allowing a small amount of people hosting women’s place meeting at your town hall is far more evil and acceptable than shouting kill all terfs, depicting hangings and posting rainbow barbed wire baseball bats on Twitter

Unfortunately these type of crew never admit to being part of what happened when the narrative shifts. There will be the ‘lessons are there to be learned’ statement.

Such as the Asian grooming gangs. Will be well we should have done better but there were ‘good’ reasons for wishing to opposing Islamphobia. Not many of the people at the councils, local politicians and police seem to be particularly contrite. As far a I’m aware none of have faced any consequences whatsoever

Too many typos sorry but I’m horrified about what is happening. And how a relatively lefty website made up of nice mummsy women is now somehow portrayed as some kind of homophobic or evil Nazi movement whilst defending genuinely really bad people

Just like how such groups cleverly attached themselves to the gay movement and seek sympathy from anyone woke, they’re now doing the same thing with the Trans movement. I’m not equating the two but unfortunately there is a crossover with many of the loud mouthed leaders who purport to speak for all transsexual people.

There have been many other examples so far in what is relatively short period like the Aniv was my calls character and Challenor. You’d think people would go to long lengths to disassociate themselves from such behaviours but it’s ludicrous that a main party like the Lib Dem’s (who are growing in popularity and successfully establishing themselves as major party) with some pretty horrible characters. They can’t even claim faux naivety as the facts are out.

When the scandals break do not let these stupidly well meaning but actually dangerous lefties off the hook. The pup play crap and other fetishist stuff is even more insidious and blatant and you still get politicians coming out the blocks call people something ‘ic’.

Peoples sex lives are their own business (obviously not anything to do with children) but they have do belonging in pro liberal movements. When you see idiots like Owen Jones going all in defending rubberman (for doing wanking whilst on shift at child safety organisation and posting and bragging about it publicly (as opposed indulging off duty) you realise how fucked up stuff is

There is a thread in feminism chat that discusses Harriet Harman and PIE.
Sorry I can't do links on my phone.

“help reduce the stigma associated with pedophilia [sic].”

Batshit. The stigma should be increased, not reduced.

I am never letting my children on social media. No tech for them. Why do people have to be so horrible?

When I see a photo of a doggyman I think "you look ridiculous". But yeah, if a child is holding the lead then my next thought would be "someone should call the police".

It's surprising / worrying that paedophiles who would be barred from contact with children in real life are granted, by Twitter, even more contact with children online. Would owning a twitter account be legally allowed for a paedophile who is barred from contacting children? Seeing as though Twitter isn't in a position to know, their default should be to ban all of these accounts. It's fucking outrageous. Schools guidance needs looking into, because it currently allows twitter at 13 / WhatsApp at 16 (?). Twitter age should be raised in light of open paedophile support from Twitter. I will send this article to my school for comment.

When I see a photo of a doggy man (always men huh) with a child holding a lead I think ‘MAP’. I may be doing doggyman a disservice - but why dress up as your kink and encourage little kiddies over?

I'll start looking myself, but just incase you had anything to hand.

@Coffeeandchocolate9 do you have any evidence for that? I would add that I do NOT doubt you, but I like to have hoarded evidence to throw at people if I make a point to them, and that is definitely something I would like to shout about loudly and angrily.

What has she said about that? Anything? I haven’t followed up what happened to the creatures who set the whole thing up (2 men if my memory serves me) or the 400 odd (men I assume) who joined the club.

Harriet Harman supported PIE and now wants to be Speaker of the HOC.
Shocking.

Indeed. It's unsurprising that some of those same people continue making choices that are either poor or ethically questionable now, depending on whether you attribute their behavior to malice or stupidity.