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"Girls must bow to trans rights in new rules for schools"

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Igneococcus · 14/09/2019 20:42

In the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/girls-must-bow-to-trans-rights-in-new-rules-for-schools-xxs8t5mn5?shareToken=3bbd28acf03ed3d2916e912216677322

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PencilsInSpace · 15/09/2019 09:42

Sounds like the same guidance as was leaked a couple of weeks ago, but that time it was for Scottish schools

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scots-head-teachers-warned-over-pe-ban-on-transgender-pupils-qht028l09?shareToken=8644144073f9e7acfeb339b60c32df99

Mimbop · 15/09/2019 09:37

Also, he's a childless gay man. So absolutely no skin in the game.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/09/2019 09:32

Why is it always called ‘diversity training’. At best it should be ‘LGBT training’ (more likely ‘T training’ these days). Stonewall doing give a F for religious diversity, ethnic diversity, disability, neurodiversity or even girls.

Mimbop · 15/09/2019 09:26

I've name changed for this.

Dd is at an all girls indie school.

I notice the new deputy head has had all the stonewall training and is 'particularly interested in diversity'

This would have pleased me years ago, but now I'm concerned. I want her school to stay single sex.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/09/2019 09:23

And there seem to be some surgeons who will do anything if the price is right.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/09/2019 09:23

wow. How sexy. And high maintenance I believe.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/09/2019 09:21

Watched episode of ‘botched’ recently. These are meant to be more caring surgeons with a more sensible approach to surgery; they decline to do surgery on some surgery addicted individuals (including a transwoman who wanted to look more like a sex doll). But even these surgeons if seemed that it was the surgical challenge that held their interest. It is easy to see how other for surgeons this, and money to be made, are the overwhelming drivers with little consideration of the mental or physical health of the individual or their motivations.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/09/2019 09:16

Section of the bowel, I think.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/09/2019 09:14

But what do they use to line this new fetish hole if not penis skin?

OrchidInTheSun · 15/09/2019 08:48

Fekko GrinGrinGrin

Oh good grief. Your own personal fleshlight Envy

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/09/2019 08:45

How messy. Like a ‘cut and shunt’ car.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/09/2019 08:39

So if there are a minority of children with a diagnosed issue here - and if advised that they need to be away from their actual sex for changing/showering (so everyone aroundbhas to act ‘as if’ basically) - that doesn’t automatically mean that they should be put with the opposite sex.

If there is a humongous jump in children announcing that they are actually trans - then that’s a social issue surely? Why now? Why so many?

And why does a girl who feels ‘boyish’ or doesn’t like dresses or pink automatically equate to ‘shove her in the changing rooms and showers with the boys and get her on the rugby team’.

But they won’t demand that a girl gets out with the boys. Why is that then?

And for girls who have had to endure a boy in their spaces - so how will they feel if the lad decides, hey ho I think I’m a boy now (or do ‘a Bunce’ - Monday’s, Wednesdays and Fridays I shall be using the girls changing rooms...’). Girls will beep humiliated and violated but hey, then boy got what he wanted.

Transgender is a load of nonsense. I will stick with the olde term transsexual thank you very much. Gender means nothing.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/09/2019 08:36

I had to google pop rocks = popping candy. Weirdo.

Orchid
Yes, how can that be?

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Mummyoflittledragon · 15/09/2019 08:34

What should we do as parents? Do we write to the schools stating our children do not consent to this? Do we tell our children to refuse to change in a mixed sex changing room?

I know dds secondary school will abide by this - she’s yr7. I received a lovely email from the English teacher Friday saying how well dd has done and she referred to her as “they”, no mention of female pronouns. I wanted to scream and bang off a “my daughter is a girl, please refer to her as she” response but resisted the urge.

OrchidInTheSun · 15/09/2019 08:31

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/09/2019 08:21

That person wants to pour pop rocks into his pretendy vagina, according to the Facebook thread. Which is totally a typical woman thing to do and not at all the product of a rather odd fetish.

I'm torn between thinking that seems unwise and shrugging and going "well, not my problem if it hurts and you have to explain why you did such a stupid thing to a doctor at accident and emergency".

OrchidInTheSun · 15/09/2019 08:17

www.facebook.com/100003299679086/posts/2743335569119739?sfns=mo

A man taking enormous pleasure in smashing women's boundaries and sharing it so other men can also enjoy it. This is where we are heading

SophoclesTheFox · 15/09/2019 08:16

Oh, crap, sorry if the sharetoken didn’t work. I am technologically challenged this morning Confused

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OrchidInTheSun · 15/09/2019 07:55

Just google voyeur + swimming pool or leisure centre ( obviously you need to search news only or you get lost ads of prom Hmm) and there's dozens of incidents of men perving on women and children in mixed sex facilities.

I will take my children out of school if this happens. They all - boys as well as girls - have the right to single sex facilities.

And while this article rightly focuses on girls, let's not forget that the vast majority of children who say they want to transition are girls. This is putting them at risk.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/09/2019 07:53

If you were to add together all the groups who for various religious or cultural reasons absolutely will not tolerate their daughters undressing around their male peers and then measure that number against the number of male children who wish to be treated as if they were girls, by what percentage would the former group be bigger than the latter, I wonder? Seems an odd way for a democracy to handle things, disadvantaging the many to benefit the statistically very few.