"Girls must bow to trans rights in new rules for schools"

@AlwaysTawnyOwl no not SSAUK but we know who they are and could probably facilitate introductions if anyone wants to join them.

No consent - is this Safe Schools Alliance?

GColdtimer

Thank you for the resources, i’m going to write to my MP and other parties in my constituency and the EHRC. I’ve already raised the question at school about the PHSCE guidance in schools. The school are currently revising it so I’ll be interested in what they come up with especially after the BBC resources.

I think that we need to keep raising the issues and challenging them so they can see the depth of feeling and have to respond to our questions. The more people that do that the harder it is to brush off. Thank you at SSA.

One tiny positive about this leak is that it gives a concrete example to show people who are clueless about what is happening. I find talking to people IRL quite overwhelming sometimes because this issue touches on so many very personal things. A lot of people I've spoken to have been sympathetic but can't believe the madness will extend too far before being forgotten for another fad.

This is an example of quite how far the government are prepared to go to please the trans lobby and it is quite explicit whose dignity, privacy and safety they are willing to sacrifice. The only people who could read this and not see the huge problems are those with malicious intent or those who have been entirely brainwashed.

There appears to have been one Women’s group that has allowed themselves (unintentionally) to be used to allow ERHC to claim they have consulted feminist groups. They got really upset when the Scottish draft guidelines were leaked: claiming it made them suspects and would stop what is supposedly a neutral government organisation from listening to people with a protected characteristic (women). Of course that in itself would be scandalous, but in actual fact the EHRC were only playing lipservice to them in the first place.

Times article has comments.

This is terrible, shocking news for women and girls.

Seems like the EHRC have decided that as reform of the Gender Recognition Act has been put on hold following a huge response to the public consultation about it, it will introduce self ID by the back door. Women’s rights to single sex spaces, which Stonewall were petitioning for, are removed.

It dismantles the entire principles of safeguarding. How can Isaac say they’ve consulted with feminist groups? He knows very well that there is huge opposition from women to losing the rights that the Equality Act gives them.

He he also knows that teachers have protected human rights not to be made to manifest a belief that they do not hold. The Equality Act does not allow for mind control of teachers who know the truth- that you can change ‘gender’ but never sex.

This comment resonates for me.

It ties in with TheHarpySings report from the conference.

Legally I thought the comparator for gender reassignment was someone if the same sex not the opposite sex. Does any legal person here know?

This was the sort of thing JackyHollyoake used to post details about on here, but I think she’s gone now.

Who is this group?, sounds like they mean business

I’d like to know too, so we can offer them our support.

GCDtimer I’ve already written to my MP about this article. Thanks for suggestions about other things to do. Legally I thought the comparator for gender reassignment was someone if the same sex not the opposite sex. Does any legal person here know?

Who is this group?, sounds like they mean business

“Last week a group of parents announced a lobbying organisation aimed at the NHS. One of them, a mother, told a public meeting that the gender reassignment of young people with autism or psychological problems was “state-sponsored sterilisation of the mentally disabled”. Members of the group attended a governors’ council of the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust, which includes the Gender Identity Development Clinic for trans children. The mother said her 20-year-old, who identifies as a gay trans man and lives with other young people awaiting reassignment surgery, had ADHD with autistic traits diagnosed at the age of six.

She said her child fitted the description of “rapid onset gender dysphoria”, whereby youngsters declare, often in clusters, that they are trans after exposure with their peers to suggestions they are “trapped in the wrong body”.

Such a shame that the comments from yesterday when this article was published have disappeared - much outrage with hundreds of likes for them. I also notice that they've changed the headline.
Still - commentators aren't buying it.

Oooh the times today :

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-lobby-group-mermaids-urges-puberty-blockers-for-12-year-olds-b96zqbh2k?shareToken=572464e973a4d8ff2ee88932704440f9

Chickens - home - roost...

Matches?? Autocorrect . There were marches too 😂

Maybe girls will arise and decide en made that they are boys and swamp the boys loos and changing areas

Great idea if they did but I think in the 70s there was more political activism- matches, strikes that we simply don’t see anymore. I think girls need to see their parents rejecting wrongthink in order to do so themselves.
These policies will not change unless parents speak up and demand schools respect the safety and dignity of all children.
Re the indie- you pay, they supply . In this case, they need to supply a unisex changing room or I withdraw my child (and her school fees) and switch her to a school that supports her rights. It might be a good idea to raise the issue now, see how the school are planning to include a mtf wanting to attend the school whilst maintaining privacy and dignity for girls. Their policy should be freely available and included in the lovely glossy brochures they use to lure fee paying parents. We have a voice, we need to use it.
Ftm not really an issue, still a biological female no matter the name change, pronoun etc.

Thanks 😊

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1172955712772812801?s=20 @Birdsfoottrefoil

Maybe girls will arise and decide en made that they are boys and swamp the boys loos and changing areas.

Are girls as political, stroppy and bolshy as they were when I was at school? We were feminists back then - I don’t really come across that these days with school aged girls.

I know it looks neater making hyperlinks present as a word, but these days I would much rather see where I was going.

Here is out thread on 😱this.

Inclusive my backside. What does that mean?

I notice the new deputy head has had all the stonewall training and is 'particularly interested in diversity'

I contacted the CEO’s office of our local hospital trust, who have recently announced proudly on their website that they are a “Stonewall Champion” trust. I spoke to a lovely woman who said they did it because they want to be sure they’re being inclusive.

When I asked her what it might mean for patient care (vulnerable women not being able to say no to intimate care from biological males, for example), she was unable to give me an answer.

Also no answer to the question about in what way current laws were non-inclusive to trans people. And no answer about whether they were doing the same for a much larger group - disabled people - and what status the trust had adopted to make sure their needs were being met.

Mimbop, I'm sorry to say that this is all part of the plan. There was a thread around this time last year by a feminist who attended some sort of event run by activists such as Stephen Whittle. They talked "game plans" which included getting TRAs into schools, NHS, local government etc in order to push the trans agenda. It all sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but every time I read stuff like this, I think of that thread. Regulatory capture, I think we call it now.

My DH said he had to do an online "Diversity training" course a while ago - well, I was all over that! I said I'd sit with him while he did it. Blow me down - it was proper diversity training! It covered discrimination against women and maternity leave, age, disability and homosexuality.

DH works for a global finance company - the trans agenda has clearly not made any inroads into that sector (yet) - but anything to do with education, or healthcare - any sort of public body - seems to be all about gender.

We should be very worried that organisations like Mermaids & Allsorts are providing training for schools, police forces, NHS etc- and covering unscientific garbage like "jelly baby" genders ranging from GI Joe to Barbie.

Mimbop maybe speak to the school trustees?

SSAUK person here. Just catching up with the thread @Mummyoflittledragon and others who have asked what you you can do:

Write to the EHRC
Write to your head teacher expressing your concerns. Resources on our website
Share our Facebook posts and Twitter posts
Be brave. You are not alone in speaking out. This is about girls privacy, safety and dignity, that’s it
Get in touch with us and join our growing group of parents, teachers and doctors who want to get involved.