Margaret Atwood defends women's right to work in strip clubs because she thinks it's 'empowering'

She wasn't sadly no Rufus. She was already dead I think.

I think she is what some people seem to say/think Atwood is. Truly woman centred. An incredible writer. Bawdy and irreverent and honest. Just amazing.

You thought people women would think money laundering and tax evasion were the same thing?

Why?!

That is just so weird!

Um, as I just explained. If they're incapable of understanding how our industry works, despite many of us spelling it out as simply as we possibly can, it's not too far fetched an assumption that they are not capable of any simple level of understanding on other topics.

Turns out it's just selective stupidity. My mistake

I thought for a minute that angela carter was actually there shesdressed

Actually. She's not concerned.

She was. She really was trying not to be, but she was.

Until she read my account and saw it matched her daughter's account exactly. Because (again, for those at the back) it's the experience 99.9% of us have.

Sorry all our real life experience doesn't play along to your imagination's contrary hypothesis.

Well, no, we're not sorry. We're not sitting in silence listening to utter bollocks dressed up as feminism about a profession we're proud to be a part of any more.

@Courtney555

Actually I used the phrase money laundering/tax evasion.

Because most people that generally don't have a clue think the two are the same.

You mean like you?

And seeing as this thread is populated predominantly by that level of understanding, I assumed a level of ignorance about everything, and spoke to the level the audience indicated they were working at.

Riiight. ROFL.

Should have realised they do understand tax evasion and money laundering being different is a concept they can get their heads round, it's just lap dancing they like to be beautifully ignorant about. To every single dancer. On both threads. Girl power!!!!! grin

Nobody here mentioned tax evasion but you. It's obvious you didn't know the difference, and were called out on your lies by another poster. Proof? See your statement below.

Most of the high value transactions are by card, because most people don't plan to spend £'000s before they've gone out, so for the say, £200+ amounts it's nearly always on card and they can't "hide" that. But there will be loads of £50's in cash taken throughout the night. For little dances. For stag shows on the stage. And like any bar, loads of drinks via cash. The club won't declare half of that. There's no drugs in that actual, true scenario though, sorry...

I did Surfacing at uni. For some reason. It really wasn't good enough for that level tbh. It was a course on Postmodernism actually.

Angela Carter was on it too though. So, you know, swings and roundabouts. I love that woman.

People obviously have very different inboxes

It’s probably like the desktop and mobile version

Anyway...back to Atwood

Never noticed the cher resemblance 😀

Oryx and Crake was absolutely mindblowing in the opening chapters. I found it unfolded slightly disappointingly, though.

As a teenager, I really loved Atwood's poetry, I think these days I might find it a bit ... well, the kind of poetry a teenager loves. Maybe time to dig it out again and have a reread.

'...and then everybody clapped and cheered'

As an aside, when I was listening to Atwood, I kept thinking how much she sounded like Cher. Upon googling, I think they look a bit alike too.

😱 🤣

No? No fake feminists got a bullshit answer to pretend that's a lie too?

Must be my third degree in Photoshop

Well, after 5 pages of discussion, the one thing I can say with certainty is I’m very glad indeed Courtney isn’t my accountant.

This made me actually laugh out loud. You win the award for best come back.

You thought people women would think money laundering and tax evasion were the same thing?

Why?!

That is just so weird!

Is it because It's about money and money is sort of like maths and - as Barbie astutely pointed out - 'Math is hard!'?

Uh oh....is this the first one I received (well part of it and with her name blocked out)

Oh deary me

'Ladies'! Bingo.

It's the PMs that get me every time. Like clockwork.

Anyway Courtney, surely you have something better to do on a Friday night than waste your time with the fake feminists on mumsnet of all places?

Or has your income stream dried up these days?

Oh, another slew of supportive, unsubstantiated PMs. Never seen that ploy on here before.

Actually I used the phrase money laundering/tax evasion.

Because most people that generally don't have a clue think the two are the same.

And seeing as this thread is populated predominantly by that level of understanding, I assumed a level of ignorance about everything, and spoke to the level the audience indicated they were working at.

Should have realised they do understand tax evasion and money laundering being different is a concept they can get their heads round, it's just lap dancing they like to be beautifully ignorant about. To every single dancer. On both threads. Girl power!!!!!

Thanks to the private messages too. Interesting questions and thanks for the support that sadly even with the anonymity of tinterweb, you feel so bullied by these peoples unfounded views, you only feel comfortable expressing support in private. I will answer every one of you

Cool story bro

But you're obviously hotter and much more clever than me so I'll bow out now

Hot and rich. The whole sex industry is predicated on having us believe that it is all about hot women making tons of money. It isn't.

Ooh, did she explain money laundering to all of us saggy titted, middle aged harridans?

And whoever this woman is defending our right to work wherever we want. To be proud of what we do. About fucking time someone did instead of the bullshit "women can only do what they like, as long as it fits my views and I agree with it" fake feminism we've put up with for so long.

Thanks to the private messages too. Interesting questions and thanks for the support that sadly even with the anonymity of tinterweb, you feel so bullied by these peoples unfounded views, you only feel comfortable expressing support in private. I will answer every one of you x