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Dorothy Perkins

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MsMcWibble · 09/09/2019 20:25

It seems that a transwoman was asked to leave the women's changing room.
Now it has emerged that this person has a 'comedy act; where they talk about being a schoolgirl and playing with themselves.
Please support the DP worker - who I believe has been suspended.
I'm having computer problems but hopefully someone can link to the twitter thread.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 08:41

They do realise that all this - and I am wondering if this is a publicity stunt - is chipping away at any goodwill women have for transsexuals?

HandsOffMyRights · 10/09/2019 08:40

DP is owned by the Arcadia Group, which also owns TopShop.

You can contact them here: [email protected]

AJPTaylor · 10/09/2019 08:38

It is an absolute mess and not fair on staff (often junior) to have to judge. Let alone sanctioning them for making a decision in the moment.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 10/09/2019 08:37

“Please be assured that we never intend to upset or ostracize our customers... bla bla bla’ says DP. So a handful of people’s hurty feelings trumps 52% of the postulation.

Why is is always the shops where young women and ore teens like to shop? DP, Topshop, Primark...

HandsOffMyRights · 10/09/2019 08:34

I take it back. If DP has capitulated then they've lost my business and I'm sure I'm core demographic for that shop.

Never mind, sure all the men supporting Darcie will be buying from there. Not.

Short sighted of DP then.

NotTonightJosepheen · 10/09/2019 08:13

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/09/2019 08:11

The cocky joke was funny, didn’t get as far as the cousin

Its just all such a mess, people in authority thinking they are doing the right thing without thinking through the ramifications and not thinking about other women at all

SunsetBeetch · 10/09/2019 08:10

DP has capitulated. On twitter at least. They have lost my custom.

twitter.com/Dorothy_Perkins/status/1170613296107610112?s=19

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Please be assured that we never intend to upset or ostracize our customers and we will investigate this matter internally with the store to ensure this does not happen again.

Thanks, Ellie

Candidpeel · 10/09/2019 08:03

Here is Darcie's comedy act. It starts with a joke about being "cocky", and at about the five minute mark goes into a joke about having sex with their 12 year old cousin

Here is Darcie trying on dresses from Dorothy Perkins

"I like watching people trying on clothes"

I wonder if Darcie, who said they were there with their wife, was doing some version of this at Dotty P -- not quietly walking into a cubicle but making a performance of it, using the corridor part of the changing room for a catwalk and announcing that they are a transwoman in their quavering lady voice.

I think its worth writing to Dorothy Perkins for clarification on their policy. The social media person on duty apologised and said it wouldn't happen again, but she may have been trying to be nice and making it up on the spot.

HandsOffMyRights · 10/09/2019 07:57

I will definitely be shopping at DP more now. I no longer visit Primark or Top Shop because of their backwards policies re safe spaces for women.

No female should be placed in this position though. It's selfish of Darcie to place the shop worker and female customers changing in this position.

NotTonightJosepheen · 10/09/2019 07:51

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/09/2019 07:39

The unfortunate thing for Darcie is that up til now she has probably been able to access the changing rooms

Partially because she is obviously a transwoman and also because women were trying to be polite and it didn’t happen very often

Now self id has been proposed and we know men will take the piss so some of us are much more alert

And darcie looks lovely in her photos, and all suited and booted may still have been ok

But if she was having a dress down day, because a lot of people do, it might have been more obvious. Ive only been mistaken for a man when in jeans and a jacket, never in a dress

SarahTancredi · 10/09/2019 07:00

Thank you dorothy perkins Assistant. For attempting to respect female changing rooms.

I'm sorry it resulted in your suspension. Its not your fault you have eyes. Flowers

SunsetBeetch · 10/09/2019 06:51

Darcie does not pass. As soon as they open their mouth and out comes the quavering ladee voice, the jig is up.

Terfs have made Darcie sad.

Dorothy Perkins
MargueritaBlue · 10/09/2019 00:28

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MargueritaBlue · 10/09/2019 00:24

Darcie has a small number of videos on YouTube. Most of them are the same jokes which were in the clip I linked to.

I really don't know if I would have recognised she is trans but she makes it her usp right from the start.

From the YouTube videos Darcie is either an excellent actor or quite vulnerable.

OccasionalKite · 10/09/2019 00:15

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donquixotedelamancha · 10/09/2019 00:03

I didn't find Darcie funny, but I don't like stand up comedy so don't actually find any stand- ups funny.

Patchy and unpolished, but genuinely very funny.

Now it has emerged that this person has a 'comedy act; where they talk about being a schoolgirl and playing with themselves.

I don't really understand the inverted commas or the opprobrium. It certainly is a comedy act and it's absolutely fine that comedy involves talking about taboo things, that's the nature of the joke in this act.

All that said, if DP actually have single sex changing rooms- great. Hopefully this thread will continue to focus on that. From the video and the fact that she's pulled her twitter this person seems potentially vulnerable to me.

OccasionalKite · 09/09/2019 23:54

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MargueritaBlue · 09/09/2019 23:44

<a class="break-all" href="https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/darcie-silver-i-know-you-aretickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/darcie-silver-i-know-you-are" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/darcie-silver-i-know-you-aretickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/darcie-silver-i-know-you-are

There is a clip of Darcie here. I didn't find Darcie funny, but I don't like stand up comedy so don't actually find any stand- ups funny.

I don't think I would have noticed from that clip if Darcie hadn't mentioned it right from the start.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 09/09/2019 23:39

Darcie has locked Darcie's Twitter account it seems. Not surprised as when I saw it briefly earlier, the comments were nearly all critical, or supporting DPs.

I would also not be surprised if Darcie in real life looks quite a bit different to the profile pic Voice.

MargueritaBlue · 09/09/2019 22:59

I'm getting a "page doesn't exist" from the link.

Voice0fReason · 09/09/2019 21:53

I just don't believe this happened. Darcie looks feminine enough to pass as a woman - I don't believe a member of staff would have refused them and said it's only for females.
It's one thing thinking that someone looks a bit like a man, it's another publically accusing them.

scotsheather · 09/09/2019 21:33

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