Dorothy Perkins

I didn't like that video. It was funny in places, but it's a very harsh humour based around exploiting vulnerability- sex with animals, the 12 yr old cousin, puncture/punch her etc

I agree. "Harsh" is a good way to describe it.

I didn't think it was very ladylike. Now before you all start shouting at me that you're not ladies let me explain. Describing the humour as harsh puts it well.

I don't think the joke about the 12 year old or bestiality or shitting in her hand were jokes a woman would make.

I saw another one which involved ejaculate as the punch line.

I'm not saying this because I think women should be fragrant and ladylike but I don't think shit and ejaculate and bestiality are things women find funny. Not because we are squeamish but because they aren't funny.

I didn't like that video. It was funny in places, but it's a very harsh humour based around exploiting vulnerability- sex with animals, the 12 yr old cousin, puncture/punch her etc.

Also, again the performance of 'woman' as slightly ditzi and nervy.

It's the contrast between that and the underlying masculine aggression/cruelty which brings the humour.

I can usually manage to jump the hoops of not actually lying while still not actively inviting punishment for heresy, but sometimes the behaviour of an individual is so far over the line and so insulting to women that I'm not willing to pretend even that much. The language being demanded hides and enables an anti woman agenda. I am not willing to collude in my own oppression.

I don't know what the hell other people are thinking. I rarely know what the hell is going on in my own imagination.

I see I got deleted for truthing.

This person is entitled to view themselves however they like and name themselves as they like. I'm equally entitled not to indulge this belief, particularly when according to their Twitter feed and videos, their interest in getting into women's spaces appears connected with motivations I don't think women should be forced to enable them in.

Why is misgendering a thing but missexing isn't?

It's a shed load easier to pronounce someone's sex (despite what some people are telling midwives and zookeepers these days) than gender - especially when some folx change their genderfeelz depending on the day/weather/whim.

Silly, really, innit?

Maybe we just say Wozzit from now.

Bugger, I got deleted. Forgot the misgendering thingie.

The trouble is, as with Darcie, that so often the facts prove concerning motivations, and it is clear that women's concerns about men entering women's spaces under self ID are being proven valid. Over and over and over again.

What’s wrong with being a man who doesn’t ‘do manning’?’
I saw that person and I also wondered about their motivation which I wouldn't have done before women's spaces started being invaded.

Until women are no longer the easier ones to upset, this won't change. Until society gets over fear of uncomfortable feelings and upsetting people, they won't manage boundaries. This is the message put forward to children by the NSPCC for pete's sake - you should always have boundaries about your body and your safety, unless you having boundaries upsets a self identified male.

I won't ever shop there again, I wish I had an amazing business so I could give the employee a job!

It is a very difficult situation to deal with, and that's in good part why women's boundaries are being eroded so successfully. Women are socialised not to upset people, it's embarrassing for everyone when an obvious male has to be told they shouldn't be using a woman's space, and the majority of women would probably rather have other women quietly and angrily leave than deal with an obviously dodgy male kicking off at them. Men having tantrums is a scary experience and many women know well the risks of ending up being thumped by one.

And that's before the store has to deal with the TRA pile on.

I actually thought she was quite funny - tailed off at the end a bit. Delivery very like Julian Clary though.
Sad to hear DP have given in. Though from the description, I don’t think the staff member dealt with it very well. It is a difficult situation to deal with - should always be a senior member of staff or manager I think...

Topshop let Travis Alabanza, who isn't even trans, use the women's changing rooms, so I don't hold out much hope for DP. Shame, I quite like their clothes, but I'm not going to give money to companies who don't care about women.

chipping away at any goodwill women have for transsexuals?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

TRA's started all this shit stirring.

Not sure - any unions I've seen on this whole debate have been well and truly on the trans side.