Owl Fisher in the Guardian

It's not a very interesting anecdote, but yet I thought it might enliven the thread.

It did, Errol 😂 👍🏻

Cheers, Ereshkigal! 🍷

Propertyofhood agree that that’s a great summary from Michelleoftheresistance.

“You be the boy, no I’ll be the girl. So who’s the grown up?”

Why is this heterosexual couple being given such mainstream publicity? What media and political connections do they have, and why? For being a bit "Hey! I'm trans, me!!!" (despite being in a heterosexual relationship that they claim desperately is trans!!!)

They must have special friends in the media; because their output is so bloody tedious and lacklustre.

and suggested their interest lay in handicraft (can't remember whether it was pottery, carpentry or something).

It was screenprinting. I posted a link to a shorter version of the video.

But that’s actually true of the whole transactivist movement. It’s all Kevin the Teenager given ludicrous, terrifying amounts of power and gone horribly, horribly wrong.

Great description

Propertyofhood

That footage of Fox and Owl in Totnes chanting 'transwoman are women, transmen are men' literally like a cult, was hilarious! I can't find it now though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06p3dmg/generation-activism-series-1-4-transgender-rights

Voila! I think they've cut it down into a shorter film but there's a bit of the cult chanting at the beginning and a bit about 3.40 mins in. The lacklustre "non binary is valid" and then some saddo says "yeah!".

A used tea bag is more interesting...

I believe they speak very highly of you, Fekko...

(I agree with you)

That footage of Fox and Owl in Totnes chanting 'transwoman are women, transmen are men' literally like a cult, was hilarious! I can't find it now though.

They are all like this. It's the ongoing bewilderment from a narcissistic mindset that women keep on not doing what they're told and just existing only in relation to/as props for men with no independent needs or lives or anything like that.

There's a complete inability to comprehend life from women's perspectives, to value women as people, or to listen or engage with life from any perspective other than their own. Hence the flailing around trying to find some deep underlying evil like right wing extremism driving them. Women are Mum. They should just do what makes you happy. What's the matter with them that they won't??

This is a great summary.

I see poor wee Fionne is getting a bit of a bashing on twitter (if anyone follows him, maybe say ‘hi’).

I've been to Greenland.

Well, briefly in its airport terminal, while a plane to Canada refuelled as happened back in the 70s.

It's not a very interesting anecdote, but yet I thought it might enliven the thread.

Time to change your name? Fekko the teapot.

Continuing on the Icelandic theme I saw "Arctic" at last year's London Film Festival. Ok, though a bit bleak.

Mr Fekko and I now self ID as a pair of curtains and a small teapot. Be are Very Very special indeed. Fekkoson is now a garlic bulb.

The Greenlanders by Jane Smiley is wonderful.

I read it years ago, but it is one of those books that sticks with you.

(OK not Iceland, but not too far away.)

I read an excellent book called Burial Rites set in Iceland. Highly recommended.

A mixed sex couple who don't want to conform to gender stereotypes.... if they ever grow up they might realise they're ordinary. Just another pair of closet heterosexuals.

A used tea bag is more interesting...

Also long long winters. It is a lot further north than Scotland. Icelandic saga are amazing. Men spent their summers "raiding" so the women were left to manage the farm, and thus enjoyed a fair degree of status and independence. Urbanisation only happened post WW2, with the dramatic impact of large US and British bases, and up to then belief in trolls and spirits was common. If you like scanic detective novels I can recommend Arnaldur Indriðason who captures the spirit of his country well. Thermal energy (the country sits at the meeting point of two large continental plates) means the country is self sufficient in power, and swimming in heated pools is popular. (You have to shower naked beforehand, women on one side, men on the other - I don't know where Owl fits in.) Just about every hamlet has a covered football pitch, and football is seen as much a girls sport as a boys. And if you ever find yourself in the north I can recommend Akureyri Fish and Chips. Best cod ever.

Iceland boasts the world's first parliament. It also hosts an amazing genetic database Íslendingabók, with half the country signed up. It helps that it is a small country with relatively little diversity, though it appears that roughly half of the DNA comes from Irish slaves. This allows research into genetic links to diseases etc, but also helps ensure that Icelanders don't marry their cousins.

And yes. Bjork is pure Icelander, not from an indigenous Arctic tribe.

Iceland is a lot more interesting than Fox!

They did a brain fart at DS school. I was most unimpressed. But then they have all sorts speaking there. The kids are told to be polite...

Should be Vixen then. Dumb vole.

Of all the things I have learned about Fox and Owl that haven't enhanced my life at all, whether or not they actually identify as woodland animals is mercifully, as yet, not one.

Fekko Fox is the female one and Owl is the male one. (In the literal, biological sense, that is, not the “Karen White, a transgender female” looking-glass sense.)

It's like Kevin the Teenager has become an accepted intellectual style of discourse. 😂 😂

But that’s actually true of the whole transactivist movement. It’s all Kevin the Teenager given ludicrous, terrifying amounts of power and gone horribly, horribly wrong.