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The Times: BBC films teach children of 100 genders

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 07:17

This is regarding appalling Bbc schools films around gender.

Very good article.

I'm not sure if this is a share token or not.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bbc-films-teach-children-of-100-genders-or-more-7xfhbg97p

Thread on materials created by the bbc:
https://twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1169174010732695557?s=21

I'm clearly gender queer Hmm

It's worth watching all the films as some are quite eye opening.

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Thereblegeopart · 08/09/2019 15:55

From a biological POV, there is no such thing as gender, from a societal one there is.

Until someone disproves this, and the classification of sex, I will stand by my view and the facts in front of me that the so called 'transgender umbrella' is a load of bollocks.

HipTightOnions · 08/09/2019 15:51

I’m having to watch the film in small chunks, it’s making me so cross. It’s bad enough that the children in the film were exposed to such rubbish, let alone the children who will watch it.

OrchidInTheSun · 08/09/2019 15:25

That film is shit. I really really hate that the BBC is using public money to fund this mendacious propaganda

cwg1 · 08/09/2019 14:52

this is made-up nonsense

I had that at school. Not gender, it was ITA (surreal 'reading' scheme. It's creators invented extra letters so that there was one for each phonics sound). Bit of a problem, because, if you hadn't learnt it, you couldn't read it, so parents couldn't help, the rest of the world was in boring old normal English - so no 'we need eggs, can you see the sign for them?'.

Let's hope gender nonsense becomes just as discredited soon.

EverardDigby · 08/09/2019 14:31

Shame they have taken off the recommended star so you cant like them

I can see the stars, maybe you have to be a subscriber.

ThePurported · 08/09/2019 12:58

Who produces this guff? Is it in-house?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/09/2019 12:34

The funniest thing is people are paying for this from the BBC!

TheBullshitGoesOn · 08/09/2019 12:31

Great article, great comments.

But FFS BBC. My opinion of you was already low. Now it's subterranean.

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 11:03

Ben Elton was on loose ends yesterday talking about his book identity crisis (or similar?) and musing about the absurdity of 'feminists' attacking other feminists for stating that women don't have penises.

He cleverly put it differently so that actually it was very neutral but managed to get women with vaginas and women with penises in several times.

I think he got his fourth wave bit confused though.

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OldCrone · 08/09/2019 10:19

I just watched this. I think any child would be completely confused by the 'explanations' given.
www.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/rse-ks2-identity-understanding-sexual-and-gender-identities/zfqrhbk

testing987654321 · 08/09/2019 10:09

Why is this happening at all? I only came across about 100 genders in the last year or so and only refer to them for comedy value as they are so ridiculous.

Yet some people think they are sufficiently true and important that children need to learn about them at school.

SarahTancredi · 08/09/2019 09:49

The comments are really good. Shame they have taken off the recommended star so you cant like them

HerRoyalFattyness · 08/09/2019 09:47

I am so glad my 10 year old questions things like this.

He has already had his teachers discussing gender ID with them.
He listens to his teachers then comes home to me and asks me about it. I have explained how it is problematic to self identify and that there are only two sexes, which have absolutely nothing to do with clothes you wear or toys you play with etc.

But it is worrying that at such a young age children are being taught how the belief in gender trumps everything else.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 08/09/2019 09:46

Yep. They’re actively trying to indoctrinate children with this bollocks. I’m in danger of reaching peak BBC (or nadir BBC?)

I used to love it too. Do they realise that they’re alienating fogeys like me who supply their licence fees and write to our MPs when the odious Murdoch clan try to spin against them?

Stupid stupid stupid

JoyceJeffries · 08/09/2019 09:42

Something extremely creepy about the BBC being so invested in this. They are now creating propaganda.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 08/09/2019 09:42

*their

Birdsfoottrefoil · 08/09/2019 09:42

Just watched the puberty clip and I notice only boys get wet dreams. Obviously girls don't actually get an erection and ejaculate

Where is there internal consistency? Should they also say girls get erections and ejaculate from their laydee penises, and that boys grow breasts and have period pains?

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 09:39

*spells

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 09:39

Yes that's a great part of the article. Really speak it out.

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BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 08/09/2019 09:28

Great comment from Stephanie A-D in the article, really clear

This is made-up nonsense. People are free to identify as anything they like, but this does not change the reality that there are only two sexes

To suggest that being male or female is just a personal identity is false and will inevitably confuse children into believing that their biological sex is a choice

LangCleg · 08/09/2019 09:03

Good article and glad to see Stephanie A-D asked for comment.

The comments are already shaping up well. For example:

I would laugh if it were not such a worry. They seem to have confused the word "gender" for personality. As in: a girl is a female body with any personality; not any old body with a "female personality"

It is so old fashioned, and incredibly confusing to give children a message that female or male stereotypes are what makes someone a girl or a boy.

Right now we have Primary school children, some of whom may turn out to be gay; some of who will not, being told their love of certain clothing, certain toys or activities means they are "actually" the wrong sex. These messages are taken very literally by autistic children, who represent a large chunk of those referred to the Tavistock GIDS. Where is the Safeguarding?

The BBC has a disproportionately large number of trans identifying employees, and they seem keen to use children to validate what is essentially a belief system. The BELIEF in "gender" which is separate from, and more important than, biological sex.

Thingybob · 08/09/2019 09:00

I just had googled the PSHE teacher who told the child there are over 100 genders and Kate Daniels appears to be a female Andrew Moffat. She is a self styled PSHE expert who runs her own consultancy and was the consultant who worked with the BBC to make this series of films. She is also the "PSHE education expert" for the BBC series of films 'Mimi on a Mission', aimed at KS4.

www.psheeducation.co.uk/

www.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/rse-ks4-mimi-on-a-mission-sex-ed/zhjx92p

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 08:52

I'm not even sure it's personality; I always see it as "stuff I like to do" and "stuff I like to wear" and "stuff i like to watch" (I've been accused of being 'Male' for loving sci fi and hating musicals.) Not even a part of me. My personality is how I then react to people and events and life, that I'm crap at making jokes but always get a joke very quickly. That I like to be quiet and also love to party. That I am very self conscious.

As soon as it's my clothes it becomes too materialistic.

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Kilbranan · 08/09/2019 08:51

Thanks for the share token. It’s good to see more and more people questioning this move towards the ever growing list of gender ids. Or as anyone with a brain would say personality. The comments are pretty much all condemning the BBCs approach on this

NeurotrashWarrior · 08/09/2019 08:48

Sorry to add to my comment, That's a conversation to be had with older children though. i did notice a huge absence of the fact that girl's breasts grow at puberty.

It was all getting spots and period pain for the girls.

(I have an issue with the lack of education around breasts and their actual purpose.)

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