Rebekah Robertson - the Australian Susie Green

*This gets brought up a lot on these threads.

In all seriousness, what are the chances that this is implicated in cases of child transitioning?*

What are the chances? I think they are high.

Munchausens by proxy

This gets brought up a lot on these threads.

In all seriousness, what are the chances that this is implicated in cases of child transitioning?

According to the NHS www.nhs.uk/conditions/fabricated-or-induced-illness/ this would fit some scenarios of induced illness.

Well. She's a big fat sexist liar, isn't she?

She’s just your common or garden dimwit. That’s common across both sexed.

What happened? (Men men men).

Much as I agree with the bloody men sentiment in general, when it comes to the very specific topic of transing children it seems most commonly to be the mother pushing the agenda.

Maybe that is in response to men, but I'm not inclined to let the Susie Green's of this world off the hook.

If this is true, it looks like a clear admission that the mother had a (false) sense that the child was female from birth.

That reminds me of the Stanford Endocrinologist giving a case study of “Ava” (not clear if real case or composite) whose mother instinctively knew when handed a baby boy that the baby was meant to be a girl...

But a bit? Not a boy

What is wrong with people? One of my sisters insisted on ‘boys’ clothes, hobbies and toys, was always falling out of trees and getting into fist fights with the lads at school (she always won and it was hilarious when some cross mum rocked up with her lad in tow complain to mum that my diminutive sister had beaten her wean up). She even decided on a boys name for a while (and gave me one too).

Ummmm - a normal girl. But a bit. Didn’t then and doesn’t want to be one now. Had all this nonsense been around then, who the hell knows?

It’s cool, it’s trendy, you become an instant saint and get a tv show/book deal. It’s not a ‘dirty’ little family secret or an embarrassment. It’s become preferable to having a gay kid.

What happened? (Men men men).

For her there was total consistency with who Georgie was, there was no “change from one thing to another” in her mind.

If this is true, it looks like a clear admission that the mother had a (false) sense that the child was female from birth.

One (old fashioned) family member expressed surprise until another family member pointed out that guess what, he would actually use a kitchen when he was grown up!

Not only do adults of both sexes use kitchen, and cleaning etc, equipment but a preference in childhood play has no bearing on adult preference.

My son grew up with a toy kitchen, his older sister had it before he was born. She loved it. He never showed the slightest interest.

As an adult my son loves to cook, my daughter lives off take aways, ready meals and begging me to batch cook stuff for her freezer.

Neither of them is homosexual. Their toy preferences did not indicate their adult ones.

Parents who read every behaviour in small children as some sort of indication of adult sexuality do enormous damage.

They divorced three years ago

They split up 6 years ago (the article that mentions 3 years is from 2016). Georgie was put on puberty blockers aged 10, which is 9 years ago. Why did Georgie's father go along with his wife's MBP, delusion, abuse, or whatever you want to call it, for 3 years? Perhaps he did try to stop it, but I'd like to hear his side of the story.

Did he make any real attempt to stop his wife harming their children, or did he just go along with it, or participate?

(Do we get deleted for mentioning MBP in this context? I suppose I'll find out soon.)

The most enlightening bit of Susie Greens narrative, to me, was when she said '...so of course I took him to the doctor'. Because he wanted dolls. It was the blind assumption that everyone would empathise. Absolutely everyone would agree, because what other reaction is possible?

And it was fear. She took every last one of his toys out of the house. She said that, in public, in a TEDTalk. How bloody traumatic for a child who comes home to find all their toys have been taken away.

I lost a stuffed hamster when I was a kid, and have never forgotten about it. And it wasn't even a favourite toy, D-list at best.

What kid wouldn't conform to what ever persona would be necessary in order to regain that security.

Its blatant internalised homophobia.....no child needs puberty blockers & medical intervention on an otherwise healthy body-insanity.

Source: www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/mother-transgender-jackie-explains-moment-13355068

*On an afternoon like any other in the Green household 11 years ago, Susie and her four-year-old son Jack were snuggled up together on the sofa watching a Disney film.

Then Jack turned to his mum and said: “Mummy, God’s made a mistake and I should have been a girl.”

Susie was terrified. She knew she had a very effeminate son, who liked girlie things, such as the Little Mermaid film they were watching.

Yes, she thought it likely he was gay, but never dreamed her little boy would want to be a little girl.*

You are spot on Old Crone.There is a fear.

A boy playing with 'girls toys' or watching 'girlie things' like the Little Mermaid? Must be gay. Or trans (whatever that means)? FFS!

Note the word 'terrified' too.

My son loved 'girlie things' aged 4. He wore princess dresses. I didn't assume he was gay. I wasn't "terrified". Neither was school. Nobody batted an eyelid. It was irrelevant.

It's society generally, and commercially aware toy manufacturers specifically, who make toys feminine and masculine.

Dolls like buzz light-year, Woody, action man, are male dolls. Barbies are female dolls. Why wouldn't child play with both? Why wouldn't a child interchange them if they are given only one type? They are living in a world with both men and women, for goodness sake. It's completely natural.

When my son was small, he had a toy kitchen. One (old fashioned) family member expressed surprise until another family member pointed out that guess what, he would actually use a kitchen when he was grown up! And a hoover. And an ironing board if he likes flat clothes.

When two people simultaneously but separately consider a toy feminine and gender neutral, it's fairly obvious that the entire thing is imposed. By people's attitudes. Not an innate sense of preference.

When I read these experiences, it just screams off the page to me how sexist the parents are.

If he thought his wife was driving Georgie's 'condition', why did he go along with it?

They divorced three years ago

Why do they always jump to the trans conclusion?

Homophobia. They've heard that feminine boys often grow up to be gay.

Munchausens by proxy 🤷‍♀️

Is it still the 1950s in Australia?

Not quite, but the macho culture is very strong. The male gender roles on offer are pretty limited.

Georgie’s gender dysphoria initially caused conflict between the parents, with Greg wondering if Bec had been encouraging it.

If he thought his wife was driving Georgie's 'condition', why did he go along with it?

Well the whole “mum, I want a vagina” is clearly a lie.
Now let’s assume she’s not lying about her baby/toddler wanting to play with toys that are traditionally seen as girls toys. Why do they always jump to the trans conclusion? It’s such a massive (and frankly deranged) leap to make?

If those first words are being accurately reported - wtf. Language and understanding of words just does not happen like that! It must be some kind of slightly off colour joke, surely?

Her first words were “Mum, I want a vagina.”"

Any parent stating phrases such as this, should be immediately investigated by SS, instead they are believed.