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Vox article on rise of TERFS!

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thegiantgirl · 05/09/2019 15:52

www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/5/20840101/terfs-radical-feminists-gender-critical

Just came across this article on Facebook, Vox page. Aside from being extremely badly written is also a terrible representation of what gender critical means comparing it to being a white supremacist! I can’t formulate a good response right now I’m too angry 😡

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BeMoreMagdalen · 05/09/2019 23:51

thegiantgirl I didn't see the posts in question, but as I understand it, a PBP with a prominent Adam's apple is using sock accounts merrily and one may have popped up on your thread. You are not being considered a troll.

OccasionalKite · 05/09/2019 23:45

It's a shit article. Utter bollocks!

thegiantgirl · 05/09/2019 23:39

Just came back to thread and saw deleted posts. I didn’t see what was written. Troll hunting? Do you think I’m a troll?

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JanesKettle · 05/09/2019 23:07

They didn't 'have a meeting with right wing twats'. 'Right wing twats' was the the only organisation that would host an event about - among other things - a mother's perspective on losing her child to ROGD. All blame for any unfortunate associations there accrue to all the 'right minded' organistions who were too bloody chicken and too bloody anti-mother to give UK feminists and US parents of ROGD kids space and an audience.

Regarding the article, I honestly wouldn't mind reading stuff from an opposing perpective, if that perspective was grounded in fact. If you don't know what gender critical feminists actually believe, then you have no business writing an article about gender critical feminists. And you certainly don't deserve an audience. It's just fake news.

Branleuse · 05/09/2019 22:28

Im not repeating TRA propaganda MrsSnippyPants, fucks sake.
A group of feminists DID go and have a meeting about this with rightwing twats. I was annoyed about it at the time, but as i said, its a cross party issue and i decided that i appreciate they are activists for a cause i believe in and have done good, but i dont agree with the constant assertion now that radical femininsts are now in bed with the far right as a result which was pretty obvious it would happen.
I only said it as a response to a question someone asked

hipsterfun · 05/09/2019 22:08

I’m not especially feminine but next to KB I’d look like a proper dainty little thing...

AnyOldPrion · 05/09/2019 21:31

I expect Specsavers do a lovely line in rose-tinted spectacles testing.

testing987654321 · 05/09/2019 21:21

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 05/09/2019 21:17

I've only seen Katelyn from forays into Twitter as part of the TRA crew, and that's more than enough for me.

Ereshkigal · 05/09/2019 21:07

And on this forum everything Katelyn has ever done is dug up and shared, as she is deadnamed, and character assassinated.

Where are these amazingly comprehensive Katelyn Burns threads, I must have missed them? Can you link?

Fraggling · 05/09/2019 21:06

I have no idea who katelyn is tbh

There are a lot of women on here all with different lives opinions experiences etc. It's hardly surprising that lots are not impressed that as a group there is no longer a word to describe us, and the consequences re prisons, sports, places we used to have privacy from men etc

Will read article now.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 05/09/2019 21:03

To be fair, the article states gender-critical people and right wing doxxers and stalkers are working together.

Yes, it's amazing how hypocritical the article is in complaining about people judging trans people on the actions of a few when it then does exactly the same thing about GC people.

And celebrating the shutting down of MichFest when one of the most prominent campaigners against it then went on to kill a lesbian couple and their son is ever so slightly crass to my mind.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/09/2019 20:58

That is just not true Branleuse and repeating that TRA propaganda on Mumsnet when people are not here to defend themselves is pretty shitty imo.

EstherMumsnet · 05/09/2019 20:48

[stern face]

No troll hunting please.

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littlbrowndog · 05/09/2019 20:24

No

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CraftyWoman · 05/09/2019 19:52

I was going to say that Vox needs to sort out a fact checker, but then I saw it was written by the odious Katelyn Burns and realised that it would be quicker just to shred the whole article. Burns is a bloody awful writer as well as a liar.