Should I raise this with School?

For the last time, this advice will have come from the training company, and is more about protecting the instructors (who will need to touch and move the prone girls) than it is about the girls' modesty.

It would have been better for the school to recommend suitable clothing for the scenario but things like being put in the recovery position would be more than a momentary show of underwear, not appropriate for any age tbh and probably get very cold legs as well. It should ultimately be up to the pupils but I think any self respecting Y6 would heed the advice. If for real then modesty would be the least of their problems. It sounds like more than modesty as well eg. protection of legs/knees on the floor, trousers don't get in the way of things or need as much readjustment.

DecomposingComposers

Agree with everything you've said, especially this:

So many times on this board I see posters stating that young girls approaching puberty need privacy from male classmates when changing for PE etc yet now all of a sudden there's no.problem with the girls showing their underwear?

I would agree that a skirt is not suitable for doing floor CPR etc

Well let's hope she never has to use this in real life if wearing a skirt is so impractical.

Personally I think it would be better for the girls to wear what they normally wear and the trainer use the practicalities (or otherwise) of clothing to reflect the reality of the situation

Yes agreed

why does society continue to advocate girls in skirts when doing practical things like this render them useless

What utter nonsense- you are free to not wear skirts or dresses but bore off with this exaggerated nonsense.

I find trousers restrictive and uncomfortable me too. Far more restrictive.

Why would a skirt be restrictive? A full or pleated skirt is much easier to kneel or sit on the floor on than trousers.

I don't think wearing a skirt would be an issue if you are performing CPR. I can see it being an issue if you are the "casualty" and being moved into the recovery position though.

I would agree that a skirt is not suitable for doing floor CPR etc. Couldn't imaging doing that type of course in restrictive skirt

Really got to admire the willingness of some on here to be so negative about choosing to wear a skirt. Why would a skirt be restrictive? A full or pleated skirt is much easier to kneel or sit on the floor on than trousers.

I guess they are practicing the recovery position and that'll expose their underwear when lifting the leg etc. I don't see the big deal over the schools request.

Doing something in a life or death emergency situation is very different to practising it in a classroom eg when I go to hospital for an appointment and I'm required to undress the Dr usually offers to leave the room or pulls the curtain round while I get undressed. However, were I to collapse and require CPR I very much doubt they would expect me to get undressed beforehand!

I wore dresses as a nurse in the 80s and 90s and they were incredibly impractical when we lifted patients or performed CPR. One lift we had to perform was the Australian lift and involved us having to kneel on the bed with one leg, the other foot planted on the floor and in order to do this you had to hitch the dress right up to thigh level. They actually introduced trousers in order to reduce back injuries amongst staff because they found nurses were moving awkwardly to try and avoid flashing to everyone while doing these lifts.

In this case they are obviously requesting trousers to be worn so that the girls can move around and be manoeuvred without worrying about their skirts riding up. So many times on this board I see posters stating that young girls approaching puberty need privacy from male classmates when changing for PE etc yet now all of a sudden there's no.problem with the girls showing their underwear?

Op can you not speak to school, explain that your dd does not have uniform trousers and ask what alternative would be acceptable? Maybe they will allow leggings or other trousers?

I take it they never instruct the girls to sit on the floor at school?

The training cam be quite physical so it probably would be more comfortable in tracksuit

@morriseysquif, read my post above yours. Taking part in training comes with entirely different issues than actually giving CPR in an emergency setting.

I would just ask the school if she could wear any trousers for the day, practically trousers work better.

My 7yr old will only wear a dress for school or maybe a skirt, absolutely refuses to wear trousers. At home she lives in leggings, on the rare occasion she wears a dress she puts leggings underneath

I have given up trying to work her out.

In an actual emergency, does anybody say they can't perform CPR because they are wearing a skirt?

Ridiculous.

I'm surprised there are still nurses wearing dresses. NHS Scotland brought in a national uniform about 10 yrsago. Navy trousers and different colours of tunics for different roles. Even prior to that it was many years since I saw a nurse/midwife in a dress.

Lots of kids are in ankle freezers in the summer term at my DS's secondary school. My DS is choosing to wear his slightly too small trousers for now rather than his new ones. No harm in uniform that's a bit small, it's better than being caught out and not having any trousers when you need some!

Protective= protection

When I did a first aid course I was told to wear trousers. The role play will involve your daughter being the victim at some points. Those running the course will now have been given guidance regarding 'hands on' contact and this request will have been for their benefit, not your daughter's.

I dare say that many trainers that have to make physical contact with other people's bodies now have to follow strict guidelines, for their own protective. There is nothing unreasonable in the instruction at all.

I wouldn't raise it with the school personally as it sounds practical. I think when kneeling and sitting on the floor, it would be more comfortable in trousers. Sorry but it sounds like you are looking for a problem where there isn't one.

Not all parents make sure their children's clothes fit properly, knickers included, there are times when it isn't just a pair of knickers on show, I remember it happening to a girl at my school.

Are there really hospital trusts that still have nurses in dresses? We complained bitterly about them till they got rid. The were the most impractical thing on earth when climbing up on a bed and giving CPR!

None of the children in trousers will give a second thought to taking part in everything. A child in a skirt might, They will probably practice things on each other. I'd rather my children were in practical clothes.

Not sure why I'd keep trousers that don't fit

You wouldn’t

But to be fair to that poster not every child grows out of their uniform over the holidays

I imagine it is recommended for the pupils' comfort and practicality. I remember doing a Red Cross paediatric first aid course with a bunch of acquaintances from a mums' group. As I was rolled into the recovery position ( wearing trousers...) my t-shirt flopped about and I remember feeling v embarrassed at the thought of my muffin/ mum tum flopping around on show.

Maybe the school is just erring on the side of caution re safeguarding

Yes I think it's a bit of a leap that skirts are always more distracting for the wearer than trousers. I have a long body. Tops are always riding up and leaving my love handles exposed when I wear trousers so I'm always fidgeting.

Well, I’m a nurse and wear dresses some days and tunic with trousers on others. A lot of my staff do. You are offered both when you start employment. And that has been in all hospitals I have worked in for the last 18 years. (UK).
Interestingly there is an attachment that can be obtained to transform the current manikins into female ones- being rolled out in USA so hopefully here too in the future.
I would just send your daughter in leggings for that day.