Should I raise this with School?

They haven't asked everyone to come in trousers. They have asked everyone to come in uniform but not skirts.
OP wasn't that clear on that, to be honest. Originally saying trousers and insinuating the child doesn't own a single pair, then suggesting they would have to be uniform trousers and wondering about contacting the school to ask if PE joggers were ok. Looked to me like the £3 cost of extra trousers wasn't riling the audience up enough so a few extra details were added.

Why would a school specify having to buy uniform trousers for a one day session? If the girl went in wearing PE joggers are they likely to send her home?

And the endless discussion about how a knee length pleated skirt couldn't possibly result in an embarrassing situation. Of course it can, it's a skirt. Ones own personal pro-skirt, anti-trousers beliefs shouldn't be more important than a girl's dignity or ability to participate in a physical first aid training session.

I've done that kind of course many times over and yes you do get exposed. I learned to have a t shirt tucked in to jeans to minimise this.
Poor girl doesn't need half her class looking at her knickers.

I've posted again and again (with links) that trainers offering first aid and CPR courses ask participants to wear trousers. It's in everyone's interests, where adults are having to physically handle other adults or children on the floor.

Not everything is a feminist issue. Sometimes things are just common sense.

But that isn't the point. They haven't asked everyone to come in trousers. They have asked everyone to come in uniform but not skirts. When many (most?) girls' uniform will be skirts.

I went to an all girls school yet a letter went to all parents saying we had to wear tights with our skirts because sitting cross legged (as we did in assembly etc) without tights was "distracting to male teachers."

We were in year eight. Felt like saying if you can't stop yourself looking at a 12 year old girls underwear then maybe don't be a teacher.

Nice to condition us from an early age that it's up to us to stop men perving on us. Insulting to men too as its saying they simply can't control themselves.

And that was only in the 90s!

In your case though OP it does sound like this is a practicality thing and as she wants trousers anyway then you may as well get some.

Yes, sorry, I forgot that one.

Or a doctor

Totally agree saraclara and also Carpetburns

The hospital will have asked for this for perfectly valid reason. Just do it ffs and be grateful your daughter is having the chance to learn an important life skill and have a nice, interesting day too. She might even be inspired to be a nurse or a paramedic when she grows up.

I give up.
I've posted again and again (with links) that trainers offering first aid and CPR courses ask participants to wear trousers. It's in everyone's interests, where adults are having to physically handle other adults or children on the floor.

Not everything is a feminist issue. Sometimes things are just common sense.

ruthisarevolutionaryact

SorryMargueritaBlue. I don't understand what point you're making?

Sorry , I was not being clear. I quoted your sensible post as an example of, well being sensible, as opposed to the ones proclaiming that skirts and dresses are awful and impractical.

The trainers shouldn’t be spending half the time trying not to look at exposed gussets (& more)

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Sorry MargueritaBlue. I don't understand what point you're making?

truthisarevolutionaryact
LolChippingInLowCarbing
1st aid trained and years of working with children and safeguarding. A quick google shows all sorts of school training with girls in dresses and skirts and boys in shorts!

I really do wonder what the agenda is for the posters on here and the other current skirt thread spouting all their exaggerated nonsense about impractical skirts and dresses are.

Do you (general you doing this) think it makes you a better feminist? That you are proudly showing how you don't kow-tow to the patriarchy? Because it doesn't- it really doesn't.

I did cpr course as a teacher wearing a skirt. The people behind me saw more than they needed to!!

Lol ChippingInLowCarbing

1st aid trained and years of working with children and safeguarding. A quick google shows all sorts of school training with girls in dresses and skirts and boys in shorts! I'm not going to post the images as they're school children but they evidently weren't turned away from the training by trainers worried about knickers.
And the movement of legs should be when putting someone into the recovery position or bandaging a lower limb - unless childbirth is on the agenda??

@truthis

Are you being wilfully obtuse or have you never attended a first aid course?

And what is wrong with a child's knickers being momentarily seen from under their knee length skirt?

Absolutely nothing in my opinion

But this wouldn’t be that...you can be laying in one position for quite sometime and have your legs moved around quite a lot - it would not be a momentary flash of a child’s knickers - that’s the point and it’s why I said it’s nothing like doing a cartwheel

Adults are requested to wear comfortable trousers to attend the course, asking children to do the same really is no big deal.

And what is wrong with a child's knickers being momentarily seen from under their knee length skirt? Or are you suggesting that the adults involved are not able to control themselves if they see a a flash of child's knickers when they bend over? Because if that's the case then the adults need to be removed from the proximity of all children pdq!

There really are some creepy posts on this thread. Of course women and girls can wear skirts when administering first aid. Otherwise nurses and women doctors would not be able to manage in the work place. It's a thoughtless instruction from someone with a horror of seeing bare flesh on a woman OP. Implying that there is something wrong with the female form

For the love of God we are talking about children, not adults! 10/11 year old girls are not as careful or aware as grown women are when moving around in a skirt. It’s normal for them to end up showing their knickers in situations a woman would naturally be more aware not to.

Doctors and nurses mainly deal with patients in beds m, not on the floor ABD they’re not then lying in the floor ‘being the patient’

It has nothing to do with ‘the horror of seeing bare flesh’ Or there being anything wrong with the female form

It’s simply to make it physically more comfortable for the children involved and less risk of the trainers or other children being accused of behaving inappropriately

It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. FFS

iPhone is going to be ‘free to a good home’ soon. - sorry it’s a barely readable post 😖

10 and 11 year olds are potentially of menstrual age. They're not 'little girls .
There really are some creepy posts on this thread. Of course women and girls can wear skirts when administering first aid. Otherwise nurses and women doctors would not be able to manage in the work place. It's a thoughtless instruction from someone with a horror of seeing bare flesh on a woman OP. Implying that there is something wrong with the female form.

Having done a (rather rigorous and vigorous) first aid course I would say don’t wear a skirt or you could feel constantly worried about it riding up etc as you’re jumping up and down, cpr, moving people around/ being moved into position by others.

The last thing you want is to feel self conscious about that as there is enough to think about.
Also do you ever see paramedics in skirts?

ASDA £3 girls trousers 10-11

M& S £11:00

Plenty

I know things are very tight for some people, but I’m sure you can manage £3 this month instead if next month.

The trainers shouldn’t be spending half the time trying not to look at exposed gussets (& more) or trainers/peers having to be careful how to lift knees, where to put their hands trying to get others into the recovery position.

It’s noting like a quick cartwheel

It’s nit sexist and mist furs aud courses DI suggest comfortable trousers are worn st Jihns certainly does.

it seems that the ops fundamental issue is that her dd should be allowed to wear a skirt just because.

But 'Just because' is 'because she doesn't own school trousers and op isn't able/would prefer not to buy her some for this one day isn't it?

And as someone staring down the barrel of Clark's 'Back to School!' pricing structure I have sympathy with that!

I feel like they're being rather pearl-clutchy about the possibility of a quick flash of knickers from little girls in front of their peers

...says the OP.

a) no, the people organising the training are making sure that both their trainers and the participants are protected from any complaints/discomfort, and the school is passing on their instructions.

b) 10 and 11 year olds are potentially of menstrual age. They're not 'little girls'.

Just popping back to say there's no reason why her skirt would end up round her waist.

Have you seen the procedure for putting people into the recovery position? I think there's a fair chance that the skirt while ride up. Certainly her underwear will be exposed when her leg is drawn up. Have you asked her if it will bother her?

And in this situation the school should be saying own clothes - leggings or jogging bottoms please.

Yes they should but it seems that the ops fundamental issue is that her dd should be allowed to wear a skirt just because.

What have you decided OP?

So many times on this board I see posters stating that young girls approaching puberty need privacy from male classmates when changing for PE etc yet now all of a sudden there's no.problem with the girls showing their underwear?

Well this is what was said. And my point is that no - of course it is perfectly acceptable for a prepubescent child to show their underwear from time to time. And if your school uniform has skirts then you need to suck that up. This 'modesty shorts' thing needs to be challenged because - as we all know - it never fucking stops there when people are policing vulvas.

And in this situation the school should be saying own clothes - leggings or jogging bottoms please.