Neighbours new trans character

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius I agree completely. You've expressed perfectly how I feel. It's depressing because I was brought up like this, to be an individual with no labels. I don't understand how it seems to have gone backwards.

It baffles me how an ideology that is so deeply entrenched in toxic stereotypes of masculinity and femininity can present itself as being enlightened or modern in any way. It would be much more progressive to get rid of the stereotypes altogether, so someone can wear what they want, like whatever colour they want, choose whatever career, hobby and sport they want without those things having labels attached to them.

Why can't we let people be comfortable in their own skin, without needing to take drugs that will make them sterile and have surgery that mutilates their bodies?

Sorry - preaching to the choir, I know.

I stopped watching EastEnders when they brought in the trans character. I was interested in how it would be done, but as soon as I heard the first bit of sexist shit I switched off. They'd already ruined Stacey's character and the storylines were getting so weak anyway.

I haven't watched Neighbours in years...I definitely won't be starting again now. I cannot deal with any more of the regressive, feeling like the opposite sex, "move aside women" bullshit being pumped out as if it's equality in action. It's really not and I don't know why so many people think it is.

Did somebody really have their post deleted on this thread for misgendering a fictional character? Seriously!

I agree boob and it’s shocking that parents would allow this to happen to their child at such a young age. And for what? Georgie does not pass at the moment - presume more surgery on the way to try to help with that? It’s sad that children are being led down this path and effectively sold a lie

As usual it is being presented as the trans character being demonized and discriminated against by bigots. Nobody is reasonably arguing that letting this person use the toilets designated to the opposite sex blurs boundaries and potentially allows any person to argue that use anyone can use any toilet. These facilities are segregated for good reason.
It is bizarre over on the neighbours thread that Mackenzie just doesn't get a mention

Mckenzie has one facial expression. All the time. just one. Fucking irritating.

Eerie mix of looking female at first glance but there being something ‘off’ about them

Yes, I agree. The profile, nose, jaw and hairline are all wrong for a female.

They would never pass a screen test for casting a part. Georgie got the part because both parents were in Neighbours. Georgie apparently wrote in to the producers and suggested that they do a trans storyline and they gave them the part. Georgie has basically written the script.

The acting is wooden and the face of Mackenzie doesn't change.

I feel sorry for the person trapped in what must feel like no-mans land. The fact the parents gave puberty blockers to their child at age 10 is horrendous to hear.

It's concerning that this storyline is being pushed to impressionable kids watching thinking they can become whoever they want at the pop of a pill.

I’ve watched neighbours since it was first shown on British tv and rolled my eyes at the trans character, but being fucking lectured by actors to be nice and told that people have no right to wonder if the character has intact male genitalia, pushed me right over. They were light entertainment, but are suddenly so woke that they’re fucking insomniacs, so they can fuck off.

I really thought you were admitting to watching your neighbours out of your window when you got in from work but won't be doing anymore after they adopted a school aged trans child.

One of my neighbours (must be late 50s) has recently started dressing as a woman and has suddenly started spending a ridiculous amount of time planting flowers and tending to their front garden (not a euphemism). I'm definitely a bit intrigued as said individual is a builder and not at all somebody I'd have guessed would make the transition.

Neigbors still exists? Sounds like they're laying it on a bit thick with this storyline.

Well - today’s episode had Susan demonstrating that the only person who matters, whose feelings matter, whose fears and worries matter, is Mackenzie. Everyone else should just STFU and drink the kool aid.

AGnu I've also come across from that thread as I don't feel I can post what I feel on there.

It's so blatantly one rule for trans and one for every other issue. Forcing others to repeat and believe lies because the cult of trans cannot be questioned.

On the other hand, it will be interesting to see if Mea ups her game in the 'every single thing must be about me' stakes by having some competition

next they will be insisting that BAME characters are played by BAME actors next.

Doesn't this just reveal the problems with identity politics though? BAME includes all kinds of disparate peoples, can you just substitute one in for another, if that is really the concern?

In fact, there are many BAME actors who can and will play people from various backgrounds, so long as it is convincing to the audience. Native American actors very often play people of hispanic descent or Asian descent, or else they would not get much work. And in movies that have a lot of First Nations extras many of them are filled by anyone who has the right look because often there are not enough indigenous actors available to fill all the spots. You see the same thing among many nationalities and disparate groups where there are similar kinds of situations.

The most sensible reason people get concerned about actors being hired for roles written for their ethnicity is that in the past many such actors were sidelined entirely, and awareness of casting in that way can help prevent that. But if you take it as more than that it easily becomes idiotic as when some African-American actors complained about British actors being cast in roles playing black Americans, because they didn't bring the right kind of understanding or experience to the role somehow.

Another article in the Guardian today.
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/07/it-takes-a-lot-of-courage-rebekah-robertson-on-raising-transgender-activist-georgie-stone

Georgie's mother sounds just like Susie Green.
Georgie’s female identity became apparent very early on. This was expressed in both her relationship to her body and her interests. From Buzz Lightyear to toy trucks, “[Georgie] feminised everything”

But it's not about stereotypes.

We've been banned from discussing "politics" on the usual Neighbours thread so I'm pretty sure my observations, or anything remotely critical of the actor/character, wouldn't be welcome there.

I can't warm to the character at all. The acting is wooden & I genuinely can't tell if it's worry/anger/constipation/disgust that's supposed to be being conveyed most of the time. I'd happily say that about any other character on the usual thread but I don't feel allowed to say it about this character. That bothers me.

It's very jarring when Neighbours does a "public service announcement" storyline. Susan lectured other adults on how offensive it is to use the individuals previous name but it was blatantly aimed at viewers in a very "this is how you should think" way. I'm expecting a few more of these "explaining" scenes before everyone is accepting & eventually they'll run out of trans-related storylines & then not really know what to do with the character.

At least, that's what happen on EastEnders - it was all about the trans issue until that was done & then the character just floated around a bit until they were written out. They didn't really have much of a storyline other than being trans. I don't subscribe to gender ideology myself but I'd find these sort of storylines a lot less irritating if they just brought in a new character who happened to be trans without making it into a whole thing. If they're going to bring in trans characters they should be given something that makes them interesting as a character beyond how they present.

I really wish we could ban the phrase “puberty blockers”. It’s such harmless sounding little phrase for what they actually do, especially when the word “reversible” is chucked in there.

GnRH analogs essentially switch off your reproductive organs.

Would people have the same response if they were described as “menopause inducers”? Sterilisers? Much more accurate.

Hayley was more the old school transsexual type, as I remember.

Like Julie Hesmondhalgh playing Hayley Cropper?

I think trans ideology has moved on a bit from the Hayley Cropper days.

Hayley was portrayed as a non-feminine woman. No make up, short, non flattering haircut, frumpy clothes that disguised shape. Basically a person with more stereotypically masculine traits.

These days trans women tend to adopt the female stereotype, especially those in the media focus. Make up, jewellery, clothes to show off boobs and legs.