Open urinals on a London street corner, in daytime

Thought of this thread when watching 'Allo 'Allo and MME Edith drives Grubers Leetle tank into the pistior in the square outside the cafe.

Disgusting 🤮

I've seen these in many European cities going back years - Amsterdam, Bruges, Ghent. etc.
Never seen one in the UK, but I live up north and never go to London.
The lack of places to pee is a huge issue though. Public toilets seem to have all but disappeared except in tourist towns.

Urgh I can imagine the smell. They had these at DD's scout camp and I was not impressed, although I suppose it did make the queue for the portaloos shorter.

I suppose men just don't learn to hold it because they can just piss in a bush/behind a tree/against a wall/now in handy disgusting public urinals so they've never needed to learn. And it's just accepted by society so they don't see a need to change. I remember going to a park on May Day one year and it was crowded with families and students and the drunk men were all pissing against the wall of the bridge in full view of everyone and the puddle of piss grew larger and larger so they stood further and further back, they just didn't care about the stinking pond of piss they were creating.

My experience has always been that men can last much longer than me! It's just ridiculous.

if there's are limited resources, it would make more sense to build facilities for women and a a accept some men pissing in the street.

I agree with more facilities but NO to accepting men pissing in the street. It's ridiculous behaviour and we should not make men getting their dicks out in public acceptable.

Men just need to learn to think ahead a little.

A mention up-thread of the pissoir in Vauxhall bus station, London - warning: don't look down on it from the top deck of a bus as you pass by. You'll see far more than you'd want to.

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/27/walls-that-pee-back-people-urinate-in-public

I'm absolutely aghast that this is considered to be ok. If nothing else what the hell ever happened to basic hygiene.

Well no but men have pissed ever6where for always.

This is surely not news?

Plus typhoid.

Are young healthy males incontinent?

This is a health issue. Cholera springs to mind.

The mass closure of public toilets is a feminist issue.
The amount of toilets for us v men is a feminist issue.

We have more life situations where we need to go more urgently (periods, pregnancy, elderly)
We're more often in charge of children who need to go more ( just remembering holidays, more than 1 place, urinals free, cubicles charge)

the world is still built with men in mind. Men can find and alleyway or bush ( as can young children and that has a similar level of social acceptability)...

It's stuff like this that quietly excludes us or makes us ditch our barriers...

And very few elderly woman are capable of taking a handy piss out and about, as well as a man the same age. Squatting in an alleyway and not getting wee all over yourself is a young woman's game.

I hope they have urinal emblazoned all over them or some poor sod might think it’s a drinking fountain.

These have definitely been around in London for a long time. Around Soho at least.

Men are given ample provision because

1. Things are done with them in mind
2. If nothing available they piss on the street

Exactly this. Men will piss anywhere because they can. Male entitlement 101. One of my earliest memories of going shopping with my parents on a Saturday involved walking down flights of stairs in a multi storey car park that reeked of piss. Just today we were driving home from holiday in the Westcountry and I watched a man in a lay by casually adopt the piss stance next to his car.

Meanwhile, at the motorway services, my daughter is 7 and has already learned that there’s always a queue for the ladies but never the mens. Perhaps if we too started pissing in the corner, they’d increase facilities available to women.

Why do men need to piss in the street, whether urinal or wall?

Surely the solution is not to provide urinals, but to train men that pissing in public is not socially acceptable? Why does an expensive solution need to be provided to validate their behaviour, when it is the behaviour that is wrong?

Surely on the spot fines would have more impact, and make money for councils, rather than costing.

Men are given ample provision because

1. Things are done with them in mind
2. If nothing available they piss on the street

Women are not considered. Obv. Outdoors is for men...

Given the different biological and sociological needs, if there's are limited resources, it would make more sense to build facilities for women and a a accept some men pissing in the street.

Near Paddington station. Phewweeweeeeeee

Men like to piss and spit in the street. Like they just can't control themselves.

They will close the public toilets as a cost saving measure because men no longer need them.

Amsterdam
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/29/protesters-damage-sexist-open-air-urinals-in-paris

They put a load of urinals along the river in Paris, tourist boats up and down, french feminists were pissed off (pun not intended)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45174382
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/29/protesters-damage-sexist-open-air-urinals-in-paris

That's absolutely grim. Society seems to be regressing.

I appreciate that you see the world differently @MoggyP - but do you think you might be a bit naive in your thinking in this situation?

Yeo, I think they're grim, however, from a slightly different perspective, what about the large population of homeless people in London who have little to no option on where to go?

Doesn't help the females though.