Athletics: China field a women’s relay team featuring two men

There are fewer bulges in that photo because it is taken from the front, that's all.

And yet we can still tell that 3 of them have penises.

Because we are not insane.

Doyoumind that could be the material of the shorts to be fair. Fine, I suggest they are all subjected to a medical examination before the Olympics and that all female athletes are required to undergo one.

This would all be avoided if there were strict rules in the first place because then nobody would even think to enter a man (although obviously they would try doping etc)

Pota the mons pubis might protrude but it doesn't hang down.

Orchid how do you know that? Watch the video. She’s doing a hell of a job with her voice if she is. Estrogen doesn’t raise your voice like that. I think a balance needs to be struck between calling out blatant cheating and unfairly scrutinising female bodies that look a bit masculine.

3 of them are blokes. The one with the long hair has taken female hormones, that's the difference.

There are fewer bulges in this photo.

I do a lot of running, triathlon etc. Whenever you come up behind a person on a bike in a triathlon you can tell instantly if they are a man or a woman just by looking at the calves and the muscle definition. Look at the photo again and compare the muscle definition of the quads and calves of the person on the left and the three others.

Having a higher voice is possible whilst still being male. To me, it seems like a male.

The long haired person definitely sounds female on the video. Many women have a bulge when wearing tight shorts. It’s called the mons pubis and sexist and nasty publications make quite a big thing of pointing it out (the most recent one I saw was Vogue Williams who recently had a baby and most definitely doesn’t have a penis). As for the others, the one on the video sounds male and appears male but neither of them have what looks like a penis, so if they were born male, they are either tucking or have had surgery.

Interested to note that @Bespin read this thread and referred to it on another thread but hasn't commented on this one...

What's your view here then?!

Long haired ... person also has prominent Adam's apple - as do 2 others.

FFS the silhouettes alone are obviously male, never mind other clearly visible primary and secondary sexual characteristics.

The bloke with the long hair has the most noticeable cock (far right). Or maybe it's just the angle.

Toobad there will be some interesting squirming going on in camp USA as in all likelihood they're going to be fielding a teen 800/1500m runner whose PBs as a 15 year old boy was already faster than Kelly Holmes. I look forward to the contortions they will go through simultaneously arguing that their 4X400 team has been cheated but their own middle distance runner is brave and stunning.

As for the BBC commentary team, they'll get Linneker in and maybe give a temporary spot to the guy from the Independent (who thinks women are just lazy and should train harder - I believe he's moving to the Guardian soon which should suit him down to the ground).

In a far away country, of whose people we know little, the lady penis is overcoming its social disadvantages to make great strides in elite women's sport.

The USA won the women’s 4x400m relay at the Rio Olympics. They would be a bunch of hypocrites if they complain about being beaten by the Chinese team in Tokyo while everyone in the USA is turning a blind eye to Andraya Yearwood and Terri Miller.

And no one is more responsible for this mess than M'lord Sebastian Coe, who was deputy to the specacularly corrupt Laminne Diack for years and never saw anything, then let all this slip under his nose and never saw anything.

(I always preferred Steve Ovett.)

I agree next year’s Olympics will show the idiocy of this inclusion policy up, but its so sad for all the female athletes who have trained so hard - some of whom will be nearing retirement and this is their last shot at a medal, others who will have delayed starting families and other major life events to give themselves their best chance, only to have it stolen from them by male athletes. It absolutely stinks.

My hope is that a few GC, middle aged, ex professional, natal male athletes will ‘transition’ and compete in order to highlight the absurdity of the current rules.

• lowering natal male testosterone levels to x 4/5 higher than natal women.
• showing the legacy effects of testosterone and male puberty on the ‘transitioned’ physiology.

I really hope the Olympics are packed with men in the women's events - the world will see these people for the cheats they are, and I think the IOC are going to find themselves on the wrong side of a massive backlash.

Most people still are totally unaware of the issue, but the Olympics has a huge audience, most of whom will have no idea why men are competing in women's events.

The next Olympics will be an absolute farce, but hopefully it will herald the beginning of the end of this ridiculousness.

I’m trying to imagine the Olympics coverage from the woke BBC which will try very very hard not to mention the emperor’s new clothes. It will be interesting to see if they can get their commentators, most of whom are retired sports players, to keep their mouths shut, though.

Mary Peters has spoken out, Today's Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/olympic-star-mary-peters-charges-into-trans-athletes-row-mn5fb6nch?shareToken=a1bde954f0a32f3343b9a995d4944f16

We need some very high profile professionals, both male and female, to speak out against this horror
That's not their responsibility. It's the job of the governing bodies to step up, stop acting like cowardly snivelling shits, and to say 'No, anyone with a Y chromosome does not get to compete in women's events'. Right across the board. They could put a stop to this right now, but they're deliberately choosing not to.

We need some very high profile professionals, both male and female, to speak out against this horror.

They do, and they get abused for it. Martina Navratilova is the highest profile LGB sports star ever, and even she gets abused.

It’s all so utterly predictable.

On the plus side, how long do you think it will be before the losing countries start kicking up a stink? It’s all well and good having some Chinese none women in such a sport, butt if the other team have bigger, stronger none women, then China will eventually lose. I wonder how many women will suddenly be replaced on the American, British, etc teams by none men, once the money men realise that their wokeness and ‘fuck you women’ attitude, will end up costing their countries medals. They may not give a shit about women in sport, but they sure as hell won’t want to lose those gold medals to other men, who identify as women.