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Athletics: China field a women’s relay team featuring two men

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Haworthia · 31/08/2019 14:28

This was as predictable as the day is long. China are well known for their, er, intense pursuit of national success at the Olympics. What better way than to field two blokes but insist they’re women!

I mean, look at them.

On Twitter there were numerous people suggesting that they were possibly women who have taken massive doses of testosterone. Personally, I don’t think testosterone could ever give a natal woman such masculine faces.

They’re men.

twitter.com/savewomenssport/status/1167544600002748417?s=21

Athletics: China field a women’s relay team featuring two men
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S1naidSucks · 31/08/2019 23:04

I think Fu is the only woman there, her 'shorts' are different to the others, plain red where the others seem to have something navy under the red

Your eyes are not deceiving you. 🎼 There are three pairs of shorts that are not like the others. 🎶 Sorry. 😁

JoyceJeffries · 31/08/2019 22:59

The next Olympic are going to be an utter shit show. People are deluding themselves if they think only China is going to be pulling this stunt. Pretty much every country will be fielding men in the women’s category. It’s completely inevitable.

Voice0fReason · 31/08/2019 22:47

Women's sport will cease to exist if the sporting bodies don't put a stop to this.

FannyCann · 31/08/2019 22:47

Have to say this thread is brilliant.

It's reminded me of when the Beijing Olympics were on and hundreds of excited BBC reporters descended. Listening on the radio it was clear they were playing that game that barristers play of somehow sneaking a rude word in without the judge noticing.
Reporter "what is your name?"
Chinese man " Wan King"
Pause...then just to check and make sure his mates had heard "Mr Wan King?"
Chinese man "yes, Mr Wan King".
Probably wasn't his name at all, I bet they'd slipped him a few $ or whatever was most acceptable currency.

JanesKettle · 31/08/2019 22:45

I've had women say to me on Facebook "I don't care about sport and anyway, I'd rather transwomen felt validated".

'I don't care about other women and anyway, I'd rather validate men.'

derxa · 31/08/2019 22:42

Disgusting

donquixotedelamancha · 31/08/2019 22:29

Is it absolutely sure these are male?

I usually like to reserve judgement but having watched the video of Liao being interviewed, I can't see any other conclusion.

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2019 21:59

We know what Magdalen would say

Fuck this shit

mcduffy · 31/08/2019 21:56

Will sponsors and spectators still want to be part of this though?

BarbaraStrozzi · 31/08/2019 21:54

Next year we'll look upon pictures like these fondly and sigh at the nostalgia of a bygone age when you still had a chance of seeing one female in women's sports.

I fear so.

Popchyk · 31/08/2019 21:43

Another pic. L - R: Foof, Schlong, Williao, Wang.

The insanity of 2019.

Discussing whether it is 3 males in a women's relay race.

Or just the 2.

Next year we'll look upon pictures like these fondly and sigh at the nostalgia of a bygone age when you still had a chance of seeing one female in women's sports.

Athletics: China field a women’s relay team featuring two men
corlan · 31/08/2019 21:11

Well, I can see Tong's dong.

Wang's wang is also clearly visible.

LizzieSiddal · 31/08/2019 21:03

Well, I can see Tong's dong.

Indeed

So we will all be gaslighted into watching men enter womens' sports, whilst everyone calls them women. Don't the governing authorities mind looking completely stupid?

Doyoumind · 31/08/2019 20:53

I can't see how this won't become more visible at Tokyo. There's basically a loophole in the current regulations that increases the opportunity of winning without officially cheating. Of course that will be exploited.

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2019 20:34

They are just guys

And wta.
women are not guys without balls What’s having their balls chopped off have anything to do with playing women’s tennis

Pota2 · 31/08/2019 19:36

Sorry, the one with the fringe is at the start of the video, then the male, then the woman without a fringe.

Pota2 · 31/08/2019 19:33

end I think it’s the one on the right because she doesn’t have a fringe. It might look slightly like a bulge in the picture but that can be as a result of the pubic bone or even pubic hair. In the video she sounds and appears female. The other one however, really really does not.

endofthelinefinally · 31/08/2019 19:09

The female in the video is the one on the left of the photo I think.

MrGHardy · 31/08/2019 19:05

This pisses me off to no end. On another board there are hardcore TRAs who say ignorant stuff like "but I heard it is all ok with HRT" others thinking they are clever by demanding evidence (mind you there is plenty of evidence already, not least that the onus is actually on them tp show that a male on HRT has no advantage, not the other way round) all the way to "what is the issue with women competing in women's sports".

It is incredible how the entire sporting world is being gaslighted to such an extent. We need some very high profile professionals, both male and female, to speak out against this horror.

Pota2 · 31/08/2019 18:54

I don’t think the one on the right is male because in the video she sounds and appears female. I think the other one in the video is clearly male. I haven’t heard the other alleged male speak so would not want to say for sure but the one speaking in the video is 100 % male.

Popchyk · 31/08/2019 18:38

Wasn't aware that they'd changed the rules, OldCrone.

Rules changed in December 2018, so in 2020 the WTA will have lots of males claiming to be female, having lowered their testosterone for 1 year only. Hope they are ready for it. The potential prize money and sponsorship in women's tennis is huge - that will attract males who claim to be female, for sure.

I note that the WTA states that they have absolute discretion in determining fairness. So theoretically, they can still turn any male tennis players away. And of course, they will be sued for doing so.

Propertyfaux · 31/08/2019 18:36

Reading (via google translation) the tweets from China but also Japan the comments are not supportive and equally questioning the sex.

MagneticSingularity · 31/08/2019 18:26

jay55 I think the trouble with that is it’s kinda what some ideologists are counting on in a backhanded kinda way “oh well, it’s China/Russia innit? They always cheat. Doesn’t mean our TW team members aren’t genuinely trans.”

Yes some countries will exploit this more than others and pad their female squads with as many males as they think they but I for one can’t just shrug and say that’s only to be expected from them, I feel women have to stand for zero tolerance: no XY people (men) competing in XX (women’s) events - none.

And oh yes GIrlDownUnder down the line we’re definitely going to have the realTW v fakeTW fingerpointing, which will be entertaining in a bitterly serves them right kind of way, but it really doesn’t help women in sport now.

jay55 · 31/08/2019 18:05

China systematically lied about its gymnasts ages for years, creating fake documents etc, i won't trust anything they ever say in regards to sport.

Haworthia · 31/08/2019 18:04

I think the first wave BS will start asking questions like what is a real transwoman, who’s more a real transwoman? I was here first and I’m the one true transwoman, in fact I’m so trans I’m cis. Like they already do on twitter

Sounds plausible. I also anticipate cries of “These aren’t true transwomen, this is state sanctioned cheating!” (which... it most likely is) followed by cries of “But how do you tell the difference?”

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