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New EHRC guidance for schools

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emzvalentine · 28/08/2019 21:33

The EHRC has produced new guidance for transitioning pupils in Scottish schools, with English guidance to follow shortly.

Despite the recent calls for statutory codes for implementing the exceptions in the Equality Act, the EHRC has, once again, repeated a policy that fails to take into account the needs of girls, and defers to the trans organisations.

Details and link to the guidance document are on this thread:
twitter.com/VicM2019/status/1166808190983577608

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KinseyMilhone123 · 29/08/2019 00:55

It’s already been stated that this will undermine & threaten work being done. This isn’t ‘sneaking’ through without notice if there are groups, undermined by this, working on it.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 29/08/2019 00:51

Alternatively, women’s groups have not been consulted, there is no trust in them and by leaking it EHRC failures are being made public. Deleting it could simply play into the hands of those who want this sneaked in without notice.

MereMinion · 29/08/2019 00:45

The effect this will have - even just the suspicion of where the leak has come from will slam shut doors that have taken months to open up. If this is what the OP here & on twitter is hoping to achieve, then that's a pretty shitty thing to do. If it's not what they're looking to do, then I'd suggest they delete this & the twitter thread.

CharlieParley · 29/08/2019 00:44

If the EHRC has sent this the draft out for feedback btw, it will also have been sent to schools, teachers, trans rights organisations, lawyers, children's rights organisations etc etc. That would mean the number of possible leakers is huge.

As for trust - if the EHRC had built up any kind of relationship with women's rights groups, they would have consulted with them before drawing up guidelines that once again ignore the needs and rights of girls. Sending this draft out for feedback now is not a consultation.

OldCrone · 29/08/2019 00:38

The tweets aren't by a TRA. I don't think they'd have leaked it because they would want it to go through as quietly as possible without anyone noticing how the EA is being misrepresented.

KinseyMilhone123 · 29/08/2019 00:37

And you know that how?

CharlieParley · 29/08/2019 00:36

What implications? The EHRC hasn't consulted any women's groups in Scotland. So they cannot be held responsible for a leak.

KinseyMilhone123 · 29/08/2019 00:33

Whoever posted this here & on twitter clearly hasn’t thought through the implications this will have on those who are working on it. If the OP is the same person who posted this on twitter, they’d do the decent thing & delete both threads.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 29/08/2019 00:32

It could have come from a TRA group? (Not seen the tweets)

MereMinion · 29/08/2019 00:29

Where did the document come from then? That's clearly not true, given what's been posted already.

CharlieParley · 29/08/2019 00:23

AFAIK the EHRC has not consulted with women's groups on this.

HannaSkye · 29/08/2019 00:18

So yup, a lot of women are working very hard to change these policies, and leaking guidance sent to only a few groups for feedback, with no knowledge at all of how that leak itself, or how it has been framed, will impact these groups, particularly if only one or two groups are making these points, is threatening their work, and potentially undermining everything they have done to build the trust needed for organisations like the EHRC to consult them on this. Because of this leak any groups making these points may never be consulted with again. Anyone who wants to support such groups, please don't engage in undermining them like this.

HannaSkye · 29/08/2019 00:06

This should not be posted, it could compromise the process for the groups that have been sent this guidance in Scotland. The post itself says only a few groups were sent it, this is not helpful.

MereMinion · 29/08/2019 00:00

Why are you posting this?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 28/08/2019 22:01

Is this statutory guidance?

CharlieParley · 28/08/2019 21:58

Thanks for that. Absolutely terrible. It's the old guidelines all over again, zero consideration for the rights and needs of girls. Also seriously misrepresenting the EqA. And completely ignores the Children's Rights Impact Assessment from Women and Girls in Scotland.

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