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TRA publicly gloats about terminally ill young woman’s diagnosis and impending death

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Victoriapestis01 · 27/08/2019 09:18

As everyone who read this will know, Magdalen Berns is terminally ill with glioblastoma and has moved to palliative care, which is the last stage of cancer. It is an absolute tragedy that a young person is in this position, and someone so brilliant and brave and committed, with so much to offer. Hideous.

I was utterly horrified to see on Twitter that Rachel Mckinnn has been publicly gloating about this fact, encouraging followers to ‘celebrate’ that Magdalen is ‘dying of brain cancer’.

This is evil, isn’t it? It’s the unvarnished face of hatred, spewing its pus out into the world.

There’s an open letter about this on Medium, but I want to do more. Does anyone have any ideas of how this could be publicised?

McKinnon in the past has also wished that we (the people who disagree with the TRA agenda) would ‘die in a grease fire’. This is a misogynist daydreaming about, and celebrating, women dying in horrible pain.

Am I right in thinking McKinnon may be coming to the UK at some point in the future? Doing what? Are there organisations involved with that visit, who can be asked publicly why they’re supporting this active, obscene, death fantasising hatred of women? Academic institutions? Cycling publications?

Is there scope for advocating for McKinnon to be barred from entering the UK, on the same grounds as are those who promote some forms of radical Islam? I know it wouldn’t succeed, but it could attract attention!

Sorry if this is covered elsewhere.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 27/08/2019 13:29

The feed certainly demonstrates, as do many others, that 'transphobia' and 'transphobes' has become a useful bin in which to stuff any behaviours, thoughts or communications that cause discomfort or present boundaries to personal behaviours, even behaviours that are openly socially unacceptable in work or any other contexts. It's become a direct jettison chute for avoidance.

Joisanofthedales · 27/08/2019 12:47

I've signed the letter in my own name. McKinnons twitter feed is rank.

DrLouiseMoody · 27/08/2019 12:08

Hullo! I am still taking signatures (no closing - this letter will stand as a record of McKinnon's behaviour). DM me if you'd like to sign! Usernames are fine if anonymity is needed.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 27/08/2019 12:04

Honest to god McKinnon is unhinged

twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1165991833375268864

ThatCurlyGirl · 27/08/2019 11:56

I know it's not the "right" response to this kind of story as I usually try to rise above, debate sensibly and articulate myself clearly and calmly.

But fuck me, this made me cry.

McKinnon, you misogynist, cruel, nasty bully.

If McKinnon isn't fired for this then it will be a travesty.

Claiming to stand up for a minority group by saying such absolutely disgusting things is a ridiculous display of how utterly self serving and selfish everything you do is.

My trans friends are disgusted by your behaviour and you do not speak for them. You are not the voice of the trans community. At all.

I am so sorry to Magdalen's family and friends (and of course to all of us who respect her and will continue to respect her and have been and will remain thankful for her) that this situation has occurred on top of everything else they must be going through. She is brave and brilliant.

I think you're a horrible, vitriolic person McKinnon, yet I would never gloat about or celebrate you or anyone else having a terminal illness. Ever. It would not even cross my mind. Or most people's.

It says so much more about you than anyone else that you went there.

DuMondeB · 27/08/2019 11:31

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TRA publicly gloats about terminally ill young woman’s diagnosis and impending death
Quaffy · 27/08/2019 11:21

I know very little about Magdalen Burns but like any vaguely decent person I am very sorry to hear of her illness. Rachel McKinnon’s views are disgusting.

Genuinely stunned at her tweets saying people were happy when osama bin laden died as though it is even vaguely comparable. She is just a staggering nasty piece of work.

TirisfalPumpkin · 27/08/2019 11:11

Personally, I'd like there to be no barriers in his way to entry to the UK, and I'd like him to be given the biggest platform possible, ideally with his tweets beamed onto nearby buildings.

Prononus selected based on reason for person's notoriety - RMcK hasn't done anything of note as an academic and is primarily known as a misogynist who campaigns against women's participation in sport.

AncientLights · 27/08/2019 11:00

Wiiglyblueline ok I take it back. Harrop has deleted that comment seemingly, so has shown his cowardice right there. Despicable. But clearly losing his 'friends' is too big a worry for him.

MissLawls · 27/08/2019 10:54

Harrop deleted his tweet criticising McKinnon after push back. Showing he's not only a very nasty piece of work but he's a coward too. Much like Maugham. Just as well women aren't cowards isn't it? Our species would've died out long ago...

Yeahnahyeah · 27/08/2019 10:52

Would expect nothing more. "What would Magdalen do?" should be our guide

This. ❤️

HandsOffMyRights · 27/08/2019 10:47

Didn't Martina get dropped from an organisation because of RM?

Also, BBC have previously promoted RM and penalised opponents. What say you BBC?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bbc-cut-guest-from-debate-over-trans-row-l68jmmcr2

ScrimshawTheSecond · 27/08/2019 10:43

Michelle I agree - no need to respond to the one who is wishing death on people, but people can and should be made aware of what has been said. This is someone who has been 'consulted' on trans sport issue, no? By the BBC? So clearly has a voice that is respected and has been amplified by the establishment.

We all need to Be More Magdalen. Hear, hear.

RuffleCrow · 27/08/2019 10:31

Change of heart from me: this is hate speech against someone with a disability (terminal illness is classed as a disability, unsurprisingly) and her sexuality is also clearly a factor. I imagine what he has said is also a crime in Canada too. Has anyone contacted the police?

wigglybluelines · 27/08/2019 10:30

Glad to see A Harrop is disgusted by McK's behaviour in this

Harrop is under investigation by the GMC for his disgusting behaviour towards women on social media.

Sorry but I'll reserve judgement on whether he was moved to comment by a genuine feeling of disgust with McKinnon or a self serving need to appear compassionate because the GMC is looking.

DuMondeB · 27/08/2019 10:20

We all need to Be More Magdalen.

McKinnon is a cock, but I expect nothing else.

AncientLights · 27/08/2019 10:16

Glad to see A Harrop is disgusted by McK's behaviour in this.

wigglybluelines · 27/08/2019 10:01

Michelleoftheresistance I totally agree.

wigglybluelines · 27/08/2019 10:01

Here is Louise Moody's open letter:

medium.com/@drlouisejmoody/open-letter-to-larry-krasnoff-philosophy-college-of-charleston-john-gordon-director-how-to-c028cab5fc86

It's addressed to "Open Letter to Larry Krasnoff (Philosophy, College of Charleston), John Gordon (Director, how to: Academy), and Little, Brown and Company"

Presumably McKinnon's employers? And also the company paying for McKinnon to come to the UK I think?

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/08/2019 09:56

Just to add: I'm all for grey rocking tweets and not giving attention directly to this kind of open provocation. There is a difference between responding to the person, particularly when that's the person's main aim, and just making sure the general public see information necessary to them making informed choices. And the establishment see the general public being shown the full picture and not just the nice, sanitised bits.

WhatsNextMrsLandingham · 27/08/2019 09:52

I'm blocked by McKinnon but still reported the account when screenshots were made available. They are a nasty piece of work and their tweets are full of hate for anyone who disagrees with them. It'll be interesting to see their reply to the doctor (who shall remain nameless) for saying the sentiments of the tweets were bad, though this may have been due to the fact they are already in hot water with the GMC.

wigglybluelines · 27/08/2019 09:50

Louise Moody has written an open letter condemning McKinnon's tweets.

If you give her your name she'll add you as a signatory. You can find Louise on Spinster or Facebook. (Twitter banned her).

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/08/2019 09:48

I wholly agree about supporting Magdalen, but Magdalen is definitely not a person who believes in letting things lie or go unchallenged, and has taken a great deal of flak in her life pursuing that aim.

Personally I think these views of McKinnon's should be publicised and shared as widely as possible. On the evening news and in the papers would be great but social media helps too, lots of screenshots. Let McKinnon explain and express that women displeasing McKinnon should die in the most vile ways imaginable and McKinnon will celebrate their demise. Let McKinnon do the heavy lifting helping the general public understand that this is a well known, often mentioned facet of the loving and inclusive trans rights agenda.

Let people see for themselves the kind of person and the kind of loathing of women McKinnon and many others leading the lobby stand for, and have the freedom to make informed choices, just the way Magdalen did this with nice veneer appalling ethics speakers such as Dennis. Covering up, helping the TRA lobby hide and gloss over their loose cannons who speak too much of their truth and not reacting just aids McKinnon and aids the political lobby, and Magdalen never seems to have had much truck with that.

DuchessDumbarton · 27/08/2019 09:47

Yup........grey rock, as often said here.
No attention.

weebarra · 27/08/2019 09:47

Would expect nothing more. "What would Magdalen do?" should be our guide.