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Any stats on transwomen who are agp compared to homosexual

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Qcng · 25/08/2019 21:04

Hi,
Basically there's someone in my life who is gender critical to a point, (thinks it's ridiculous for males to compete against women in sport and is generally conservative when it comes to same sex spaces).

They basically refuse to or can't believe that a "man dressed in women's clothing" could possibly be attracted to women.
He is convinced that all transvestites/transwomen are "gay" - attracted to men.

I have tried to explain that some cross dressers or transwomen are attracted to women, which is a worry for women in same sex spaces like prisons/shelters etc, but he basically thinks I'm making it up! He can't believe it, so it leads to a sort of plateau in his thinking which a lot of men get to, which is
"Well it's only harmless feminine (weak) gay men so what's your problem?"

Anyway.

I've come across this sort of thinking from men rather a lot.

Can any of you help me with concrete statistics wrt basically

The percentage of males who identify as women who are attracted to women
Compared to
The percentage of males who identify as women who are attracted to men?

OP posts:
ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2019 22:38

This is one of Blanchard papers, unfortunately the full text isn't free access - but the abstract makes it cleat there are both homosexual and heterosexual male trans people.

link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542107

FermatsTheorem · 25/08/2019 22:25

Sit him down and make him watch the infamous Riley Dennis video about "your genital preferences are transphobic."

ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2019 22:21

They basically refuse to or can't believe that a "man dressed in women's clothing" could possibly be attracted to women.
*He is convinced that all transvestites/transwomen are "gay" - attracted to men.

I have tried to explain that some cross dressers or transwomen are attracted to women,*

I don't know about stats, but there are at least a couple of very well known heterosexual transvestites- you can probably glean enough from their wiki pages, although I think perry has written more about it. Perry is honest about it, and afaik does not impinge on women's spaces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GraysonPerryy_
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And then there's Izzard_ Hmm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddiee_Izzard

Or then there's McKinnon ...

zebrasdontwearbras · 25/08/2019 21:42

Ray Blanchard is good on this - I'm not sure anyone knows the exact proportion though.

Transwomen fall into roughly 2 types:

  1. Effeminate gay males - attracted to other males.
  2. AGP males - who are sexually aroused at the thought of themselves as women (transvestites) - attracted to women.

But - surely your gc-ish friend must realise that a substantial proportion of transwomen are attracted to women?

Caitlyn Jenner for a start, has a girlfriend.

Show your friend stuff about the cotton ceiling - that was written by transwomen attracted to women, who want to persuade lesbians to "date" sleep with them.

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