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Manchester pride usual 8 plus 3 extra

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 17:36

Looks like the usual people turned up for a photo op at Manchester pride, though to be fare there were 11 not 8 as usual.

Carry on protesting because its a good reminder of the actual numbers if that is all the people that can protest the second biggest pride in the UK.

Manchester pride usual 8 plus 3 extra
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TruthOnTrial · 24/08/2019 23:42

No. Its not.

I guess a lot of this must just be projection.

Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:42

littlbrowndog

right this is the question I have never got answered. would you tell them that? and when they said they are lesbians would you carry in telling them that. you know like the men that come upto lesbians all the time and tell them there Stright

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TruthOnTrial · 24/08/2019 23:40

the planets

FlibbertyGiblets · 24/08/2019 23:40

(buckeejit if someone asks you to not @ them then by courtesy you accede.
It is a quite new convention that has evolved)

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 24/08/2019 23:39

My anagram name didn’t make sense

But the first two words were

Budwieser defiler

littlbrowndog · 24/08/2019 23:39

Well then they are not lesbians they are bisexual. It’s that simple

Jeez you dodged it for sure bespin

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:38

TruthOnTrial

Well it's all about the point scoring and game playing int it. lol

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TruthOnTrial · 24/08/2019 23:38

Just to reassure, I do believe you about tye panets or whatever, no reason to doubt really.

Its all the other stuff you said that I have issue with, and doubt its motivation and intent. Hence, can't take you seriously.

Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:37

buckeejit

it's frund upon in here when people are in a thread.

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:36

SheWhoMustBeSilent

also slow down, there is more to life than mumsnet, as I said I have kittens lol

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:35

SheWhoMustBeSilent

I'm sorry you went Stright to defining men and woman and I'm not doing that debate for the 100th time. it's late I'm going to bed soon.

please if you can answer this one question. what do you say to all the self identifed lesbians who are ok with trans woman, mostly post op as I agree most lesbians don't like penis. Well the ones I know anyway, but the lesbians who I know who have slept with trans woman. why don't They have the right to define there sexuality?

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SheWhoMustBeSilent · 24/08/2019 23:34

Well .. there we go .. Bespin is unwilling to debate the salient issues.
My disappointment is deep.

Nothing more needs to be said to Bespin.

bd67th · 24/08/2019 23:33

i also. support the rights of the lesbians who don't have a issue with trans woman to identify as lesbian.

Please cite the law that specifies a right to claim an untrue sexusl orientation. I'll wait.

Females who are attracted to both males and females are bisexual. I am one of these. It would, in my view, be dishonest for me to claim to be lesbian or straight. The female who is attracted to females and only those males who perform femininity is bisexual, not lesbian.

Words have meanings.

buckeejit · 24/08/2019 23:33

@Bespin what's wrong with @ ing you? I have no problem if some lesbians are happy to entertain dick but I sure as shit don't think any lesbian should be given any shit for not wanting to. Homosexuals are attracted to same sex, not gender

Aberhonddu · 24/08/2019 23:32

Bespin
Misgendering is not a crime, correct sexing is also not a crime.
You started this thread with a clear intention of mocking the Lesbian women that protested their exclusion from Pride.
You've really shown your true intentions on this thread and on recent threads.
It's absolutely clear that you have no intention of having a debate.
Your agenda appears to be Shut these women up.
Lesbian = Female homosexual exclusively attracted to Female Women.
I think we all know that transwo men are men so Lesbian women will not be attracted to transwo men.
Hope you've got enough screenshots.

TruthOnTrial · 24/08/2019 23:32

because all you think is people come on here with anagram names and could not possibly be genuine

Gosh you carnt arf drag out an argument from a genuine question like its all an attack.

In genuineness, again, I hadn't actually thought it all, but you must know best about me, and what a newbie I am, or not, and who I trust now as I've been here so long, oh no, sorry, haven't.

Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:30

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer

of people on here id say that is true.

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Candidpeel · 24/08/2019 23:28

twitter.com/charlie_sci/status/1165369008801091589?s=19

From one of the Manchester protesters

"I have a retraction to make. Last year I tweeted this in response to #GetTheLOut in London. Today, I walked with them at Manchester Pride. I know you are angry at us for being 'TERFs', but I wasn't there with hate in my heart. Please listen to us, just for a minute. 1/ ...."

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 24/08/2019 23:27

I’m incredibly trustworthy truth

😇

Bespin · 24/08/2019 23:27

TruthOnTrial

because all you think is people come on here with anagram names and could not possibly be genuine. I loved my cat a lot and recently lost another called Tibanna also star wars. but happly we have 2 kittens esme and esk who are lovely.

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TowelNumber42 · 24/08/2019 23:26

What are the two points of view to be debated in your opinion bespin?

sackrifice · 24/08/2019 23:26

Im sorry I already replyed to them. I'm not setting it out in a debate format it's 11 30 b*ger that

A reply is not an 'opening statement'

Then again, no lesbian has a penis. There really is nothing TO debate. It was you that keping saying about the debate/other points of view.

Good to see there isn't one.

LangCleg · 24/08/2019 23:26

I just tried an anagram solver for my user name...

... there isn't one!

Do I get a prize?

TruthOnTrial · 24/08/2019 23:25

other posters on here you trust will tell you that's correct

I thought I was new? Now I'm not new as I have trusted fellow posters. Hmm

SheWhoMustBeSilent · 24/08/2019 23:25

And so .. the debate begins: this from Bespin:

that statement assumes that all lesbians define themselves and the term lesbian the same. if you agree that trans woman are woman and you are only attracted to woman. then you would be a lesbian would you not. you are the ones who are policing who and who is not a lesbian.

So, Bespin .. let you and me get all the way back to basics ...

Do you understand what is a female and a male?

My understanding of the female sex is all those humans [and most animals and some plants] in our world whose bodies are naturally created to supply the large gamete.

My understanding of the male sex is all those humans [and most animals and some plants] in our world whose bodies are naturally created to supply the small gamete.

Do you disagree with this in anyway? If you do, please explain why with evidence.

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