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Manchester pride usual 8 plus 3 extra

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 17:36

Looks like the usual people turned up for a photo op at Manchester pride, though to be fare there were 11 not 8 as usual.

Carry on protesting because its a good reminder of the actual numbers if that is all the people that can protest the second biggest pride in the UK.

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spinninghag · 25/08/2019 23:04

Talking of walking bodies, someone at Manchester Pride actually made and paraded with this representation of a vagina on legs.

Hang on! Isn't that the BBC3 logo on the "underwear"?

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Aberhonddu · 25/08/2019 22:51

Thanks to Stopthisnow
Great post

Aberhonddu · 25/08/2019 22:49

Women in general should not be socially shamed for having sexual boundaries towards men, and insisting males should not cross them, I think that is true whether we talking about lesbians saying no to males as a group, or women saying no to particular “kinks” or sexual practices of men. What we have at present is that women are being socially shamed for having sexual boundaries, and men are being seen as the victims of the women who are asserting their sexual boundaries. This needs to change and men who wish to violate women’s boundaries need to be the ones who are socially shamed. This will only happen, in my view, if we get the message out that it is healthy and good to have sexual boundaries that males can not cross, regardless of how sad they claim it makes them feel
This should to be repeated over and over again.

Justhadathought · 25/08/2019 22:41

Talking of walking bodies, someone at Manchester Pride actually made and paraded with this representation of a vagina on legs.

That image is hideous...and it made all of the local mainstream press too.....what on earth?

Justhadathought · 25/08/2019 22:38

I posted a thread from my point of view, which is different to yours. as lots of the treads are different from my point of view. I don't to around telling you you can not post them on here do I?

You post on here to antagonise....You know this is a meeting place for GC people...Why else would you post here? If you provoke you will get a response commensurate to your provocation. Take responsibility.

Justhadathought · 25/08/2019 22:28

There were lots of cheers from lesbians and overall the people shouting abuse were given a bit of a wide bearth. Lots of lesbians refused to meet our eyes like they knew we were right but they could not get involved in the fight

I'm so pleased that the protests were made and consciously registered. People really need to wake up to the issues.

Creepster · 25/08/2019 22:21

Am I correct in guessing those are the proud pimps and pornographers?

BlackForestCake · 25/08/2019 22:14

Talking of walking bodies, someone at Manchester Pride actually made and paraded with this representation of a vagina on legs.

i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article16812416.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/0_Manchester-Pride-Parade-2019.jpg

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/08/2019 20:22

Note: I won't share screenshots of the above, they're truly nasty thinking by people who loathe and resent women. However if you have a strong stomach and want proof just google 'gatekeeping vagina'.

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/08/2019 20:18

What we have at present is that women are being socially shamed for having sexual boundaries, and men are being seen as the victims of the women who are asserting their sexual boundaries.

Exactly.

See the really staggering comments made about women 'gatekeeping their vaginas'.... as if this is some awful selfish thing to do! The dehumanisation of women is really staggering.

Cross reference it with incel forums and posts, there is no difference in the thinking. Women are walking bodies that belong to men for sexual use.

spinninghag · 25/08/2019 19:22

it is healthy and good to have sexual boundaries that males can not cross, regardless of how sad they claim it makes them feel.

I really could not agree more with this.

Thank you for a great post, Stopthisnow

Stopthisnow · 25/08/2019 19:06

Long before all this Queer theory nonsense started, I heard many lesbians over the years say they preferred the word gay (or occasionally, sapphic) to lesbian, as they said they felt the word lesbian had too many negative connotations. I always thought that what they were missing is that the meaning of the word lesbian is what confers the negative connotations, not the word itself, any word that means women who reject males sexually and partner with females, will eventually have the same negative social connotations. That the word lesbian has negative connotations, simply because it means women who exclude males from our sexuality, any word that replaced it would quickly garner the same negative connotations, as it is the meaning as viewed by men that is seen as negative (rejecting males sexually as a group) not the word itself.

For example, homosexual females have always been viewed as “man haters”, I have lost count of the amount of times “man hating lesbian” has been used to demonise women, even women who are not lesbians but speak out about male sexual entitlement are often called “man hating lesbians” in order to demonise them and make them to afraid to speak out. Men have just found another way to say it, now they say lesbians are “transphobic” if we refuse males sexual access to us, the same as they say all women are “transphobic” or “kink shaming” etc, if they speak about male sexual entitlement. It is the same old male sexual entitlement, they simply have dressed it up as if the men who are being refused are somehow being discriminated against.

It is females who do not include males in our sexuality that men hate the most, it is actually a reversal when they accuse us of hating them, it is also interesting that females excluding males from our sexuality is in itself seen as hate by males. They then extend this to all of their fetishes, so it becomes hate “kink shaming” for a woman to refuse any sexual practice a man desires. At root it all comes back to the same thing, if women do not do what men sexually desire, or criticise men’s sexual entitlement then we are hateful “man haters”/“transphobes”/“kink shamers”/“prudes” etc.

Women who include men in their sexuality are socially accepted by men, it is only women who do not include males in our sexuality who are seen as truly hateful by men. I think considering the way that bisexuality is being pushed by queer theorists and the alphabet soup, having more people publicly saying how great it is to be bi is not going to help anything. What we really need is for more women to publicly declare that it is fine for women to reject males sexually as a group, that it is not hateful or phobic. I think that would be good for both lesbians ourselves and other women, as it would help to establish stronger sexual boundaries.

Women in general should not be socially shamed for having sexual boundaries towards men, and insisting males should not cross them, I think that is true whether we talking about lesbians saying no to males as a group, or women saying no to particular “kinks” or sexual practices of men. What we have at present is that women are being socially shamed for having sexual boundaries, and men are being seen as the victims of the women who are asserting their sexual boundaries. This needs to change and men who wish to violate women’s boundaries need to be the ones who are socially shamed. This will only happen, in my view, if we get the message out that it is healthy and good to have sexual boundaries that males can not cross, regardless of how sad they claim it makes them feel.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/08/2019 19:04
  • 29% of lesbians said they’d date trans persons. But of those 29%, 38% said they wouldn’t date a transwoman, meaning only 17% of lesbians are even open to the possibility.

So it seems that the majority of this sample were both homosexual and homogenderal. I'd guess most people's sexuality and 'genderality' align.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 25/08/2019 18:46

I said it more subtly than

Do you like vagina

Obvs

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 25/08/2019 18:46

nterestingly, only 11% of gay men and only 3% of straight men would consider dating anyone trans, of either sex, but oddly no one’s calling them transphobic bigots

I did check with the two gay men currently in my living room and they did not seem keen on vagina at all...in the slightest

BickerinBrattle · 25/08/2019 18:04

Isn’t it just, Erish?

Interestingly, only 11% of gay men and only 3% of straight men would consider dating anyone trans, of either sex, but oddly no one’s calling them transphobic bigots (yet.)

BunchMunch · 25/08/2019 17:50

I'm not a lesbian but I applaud those women for standing up for their rights. I find it confusing tbh that lesbians are being called out for not wanting to date /have a sexual relationship with anyone with male genitalia.
The survey on twitter which asked straight men if they'd date trans women didn't attract the same level of angst - I think about 90% said they wouldn't.

I don't believe people can change their sex.

(I also don't see why that is so controversial.)

Ereshkigal · 25/08/2019 17:46

So simultaneously the vast majority of lesbians, according to Bespin, include MTF trans people in their dating pool, but strangely enough don't appear to follow through or even stick to the correct gender? A mystery for our times.

SophoclesTheFox · 25/08/2019 17:43

Aw, thank you pankhurst!

BickerinBrattle · 25/08/2019 17:42

LOL at the notion that the vast majority of lesbians will sleep with dick:

www.them.us/story/cis-trans-dating

29% of lesbians said they’d date trans persons. But of those 29%, 38% said they wouldn’t date a transwoman, meaning only 17% of lesbians are even open to the possibility.

The remainder, though, were — strangely, according to the researchers — willing to date transMEN.

The researchers actually expressed surprise that lesbians would be willing to date “opposite to their own gender identity.”

Of those 17% of lesbians who stated they’re open to the possibility of dating TW, how many have actually done so, how many have carried that through to actually having sex — who knows?

Average age of participants = 26.

So, Bespin you’re out to lunch. The Manchester protestors are actually expressing the view held by 83% of lesbians.

Bespin · 25/08/2019 17:41

GirlDownUnder

it's a turf banking/patio bit trying to be low impact on the mooring.

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GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 17:41

Nor I, but I still reckon I could have a go 💪

Bespin · 25/08/2019 17:39

also I don't sow lol

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GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 17:39

I could not get any turf anywhere

Is this to sit on top of decking turf?

Bespin · 25/08/2019 17:35

GirlDownUnder

I definatly don't bake, no one to bury this time funally I could not get any turf anywhere for the top of it.

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