Manchester pride usual 8 plus 3 extra

So it’s no longer for for purpose.

Some of there people are straight. When did Kink become part of the alphabet soup?

It has become a festival of 'queerness' - and that includes heterosexuals and fetishists whatever their sexuality.

Pride had become so though. Why is that?

*Gay is not synonymous with porn/kink, and to publicly assert that is so offensive to gay and straight alike8

..and yet I've been told it is...it is all part of the culture. no criticism or pause for reflection is allowed. If it's gay it must be o.k!

Pride comes before a fall, just sayin...

I think you're right. The more it becomes so blatantly about sexual fetishes, the more people it will alienate. I can imagine that some will say " Good: we want to wind up those prudes and haters...and if they don't like it they can just stay away" .

This sort of exhibitionism is provocative and aggressive, though - and because of that there will be a backlash.With regards to parents, and others, smiling on as children pat the heads of fetish dogs - there must be some serious disconnect going on - in the same way that Jimmy Saville made everyone's skin crawl, and yet people continued to clap and cheer him.

Gay is not synonymous with porn/kink, and to publicly assert that is so offensive to gay and straight alike.

Good grief, what a nasty, spiteful and unnecessary post by bespin.

Guess you couldn't keep your true colours hidden any more. I used to think you were just ill-informed. Now I pity you.

Some of there people are straight. When did Kink become part of the alphabet soup?

When did celebrating gay become pornographic?!

I brought this up recently and was told it was all"a celebration of gay culture, and that 'straight' people had absolutely no place in criticising it...."

What you do at a private event is your own business, but what you do in public spaces becomes everyone's business.

I s'pose we have Bespin to thank for the heads up on this.

to the brave women!!! Yay, go you! Each and every single one of the fourteen.

Tbh I thought those photos of children holding the huge purple willy and the fetish dog stroking had been photoshopped.
If true, what on earth were their parents thinking?? Are adults so devoid of thought these days they accept their children being exposed to this shit, just because there are rainbows bandied about and they are told it is ok? Fucking hell, perverts must be clapping their hands with glee, anything seems acceptable these days.
I feel I’m morphing into Mary Whitehouse but its time the adults stepped in and said no to this revolting crap.

Looking at some of those images, honestly, its a porn parade.

These things are what you would expect to see at a porn film trade fair.

The sooner gay people step away from association with it the more favours it will do the whole community, gay or not, as it did do the gay community a lot of favours, but now its not just lesbians its working against.

The whole thing completely lost the gay spirit when it was invaded.

We should be supporting LGB rights and visibility all year round, but it’s the association with fetishists and misogynists under the exact same Pride banner that is really divisive and is causing lesbians to feel threatened and excluded, vilified as T*RFs just for having same-sex sexual boundaries ie just for being lesbians.

It’s shocking that lesbians by definition who don’t do dick are being made unwelcome from events and spaces and activities like Pride that are supposed to be supporting lesbians and who say they are there for lesbians..because lesbians want to retain women only spaces and not to want to fuck men who say they are women. I have so much respect for the women who have been demonstrating this weekend. Personal sexual boundaries are the bedrock of sexual consent and it’s a deeply fucked up kind of politics that wants to chip away at these- and therefore to undermine sexual consent- via inciting harassment, threats and promoting the structural erasure of spaces where women can be together without men, and therefore undermine the legitimacy of same sex female relationships.

I know quite a few gay people who don’t go any more because it isn’t about them. They can have sex, get married, get a joint mortgage, have anti discrimination laws... it’s more about other things these days...

Pride comes before a fall, just sayin...
Pride is a self-righteous attitude, and considered sinful in christian circles.

Mind you so is being gay, but Pride long since stopped being about celebrating gay, and has been destroyed by porn large dicks, and hughly inappropriate sexual prowess [male]

I'm another that wants to avoid it now. Sick of seeing it, and the rainbow marquees set up various locales to promote this kind of unhealthy stuff. It turns my stomach.

Stop promoting sexual fetishism to children! (Looking at you, Pride, and authorities who condone it)

Yes I saw the purple willy! Not sure where that was taken. And the man dogs - always with the little kids patting them.

And don’t get me started on the ‘police can’t dance at Notting hill carnival’ edicts - when are covered in rainbows and glitter, have uniform modifications and panda cars painted (unicorn cars) and tweet anti ‘t**f’ comments and comments against lesbian protests at every pride march going. Sinister.

Also rainbow fatigued. Having travelled a lot during this time, we had to check the dates for Pride as it seems to have extended across the whole summer now. Its has got totally out of control as its running whenever wherever,and its promoting porn.

The images I've seen of children handling ridiculous length dicks, and watching gimps, S&M type behaviour/promotion is illegal afaik!!!

DC should not be exposed to this seedy side of life.

How is this going on, why are police and authorities standing back and letting porn promote itself to children unchallenged.

This makes police and authorities absolutely complicit in these acts against DC.

When did celebrating gay become pornographic?!

Pride not praise. Hmmmmm

Hasn’t praise being going on since June? How much longer! I’ve got rainbow fatigue...

women are being socially shamed for having sexual boundaries, and men are being seen as the victims of the women who are asserting their sexual boundaries. This needs to change and men who wish to violate women’s boundaries need to be the ones who are socially shamed.
This will only happen, in my view, if we get the message out that it is healthy and good to have sexual boundaries that males can not cross, regardless of how sad they claim it makes them.

THIS 100%^ Stopthisnow is so right. This message should be the core ethos of any organisation that claims to support children, young people and women (or any organisation that wishes not to be dangerously actively or naively or complacently working AGAINST the interests of these groups...)

Yet a quick look at the regulatory capture thread on here or pretty much anywhere on this FWR Board shows so many women posting with daily examples of kids, young people’s and women’s interests, spaces, rights, privacy, safety, dignity being fucked over purely to serve male sexual entitlement and male emotional validation. Often by organisations who consider themselves to be ethical and pride themselves on being inclusive of everyone.

Fuck that. to everyone on here who is calling these organisations out on this each time, thank you for your energy and time. Keep Your Penis out of the Ladies’!

PS yup that’s looking exactly like the BBC3 logo on the disembodied ‘walking vagina on brown-skinned legs’ (or is it meant to be ‘male genitals in drag’- indicated by the campy shoes and flesh coloured opaque tights?) whatever- If that reductive, women-hating thing is official and licence-fee-funded then that is a whole other new depth of woman- hating vileness from them...

However I might give the BBC the benefit of the doubt and email them to say are they aware that some freelance misogynists seem to have stolen their corporate logo, and placed it on a misogynistic image of women reduced to their genitalia and presented in a stereotypically sexualised dressed up for the general male gaze way with the uncovered legs, eyelashy no pubic hair cutesy cartoony ‘heart’ presented genital area and ludicrously high heels? Will the BBC lawyers have a legal go at whoever did this thing with their logo on if it wasn’t them?

homosexuality was a sin - or something

And that sin has a new name: transphobia

I’ve been thinking about this thread - I support freedom of speech and agree with diverse views, including unpopular ones, being able to be expressed.

However. I feel like the purpose of the opening post was specifically to denigrate a few brave women (including two who had been trans) and I feel that is kind of odd (?) for a feminist board! It has turned into a valuable thread though, and full of respect to those brave protesters.

Onwards, sisters.

Another upvote (or like or whatever the mumsnet equivalent is) for Stopthisnow. Brilliant post, just brilliant.

I'm very surprised that the other demonstration at Manchester Pride has not been mentioned.
You can find it by looking at the Manchester Evening News site, and looking at Anthony Cotton (he told them to do one)
But these were Men saying homosexuality was a sin - or something.
So of course they are not as bad as actual lesbians, who don't do dick
I fucking despair ! ! !

I look forward to the debrief with the rest of the Lancs Resisters very soon. These women are absolute sheros, so thanks for posting your snarky nasty little thread Bespin it's been a hoot watching how much it's backfired.

No doubt you'll be there at Leeds, with your friends in their masks again.