WIBU to hang about the toilets?

Make fliers of news items like this and leave them in toilets
metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

Yanbu. It's called girls sticking together. I would have done the same.

I would have done the same. For girls and any other women I perceived as at risk or uncomfortable. And yes, I hated the 'inclusive' festival toilets this year, with no alternatives offered.

But this is what women do isn't it? Fight the long war while having each other's backs at the same time, doing the silent extra work to help each other out. Often with some people's fathers and husbands helping who are tuned in. Demonstrates yet again the difference between women's care for other women in reality and the total lack of care or fellow feeling for women and girls in this political movement.

not all men are pedophiles though

So we take the risk and hope for the best?

I guess that's a sort of maternal instinct. I would have done the same, it didn't occur to me how depressing it is that we'd need some kind of pretense (I don't wear makeup, so I probably would have washed my hands super thoroughly or rummaged in my bag) to fucking look out for kids.

So I was impressed with this:
And I would have explained to the men why I was doing it while I was there so that more people start to realise what a shit show this is.

Agree it's the way to go, doubt I could actually do it.

I totally agree Nottonight I’m just trying to find a positive in a sea of fucking depressing happenings.

Although having said the above I’ve just realised this will make accompanying my six year old son to the toilet so much easier!! I hate the thought of him getting to say ten and then just sending him into a toilet on his own in a place I don’t know.

God that’s so depressing isn’t it. Grown men in toilets with young girls just because we all have to be woke. To fuck with safe guarding.

My daughters age 10 and 6 would usually be allowed to go to the toilets on their own but only if I knew the venue. I can imagine their mum would be horrified that they were in such a position. Most parents don't. Let young boys use the men's toilets on their own until they're quite old and this is no different. Scary! Well done for looking out for them

I was at the Fringe last week, and noticed how woke many of the venues were. One had toilets with the following written on the doors:

Toilet 1
Female sign
Gender neutral sign (the one with the circle & arrows)
8 cubicles
We encourage customers to use the toilets in which they feel most comfortable

Toilet 2
Male sign
Gender neutral sign
3 cubicles, 7 urinals
We encourage customers to use the toilets in which they feel most comfortable

There was quite a lot of milling around while people read the long instructions and worked out where the hell they were supposed to go.

Another venue had changed their separate male and female toilets to 'Whatever (with urinals)' and 'Whatever (without urinals)'. There was some serious eye-rolling going on among the women waiting in the 'Whatever (without urinals)' queue.

Mum theres a strange woman hanging around the toilets!

not all men are pedophiles though & how is it any different to young boys using a male toilet? surely they would be just as vulnerable then?

Why is this absolute bullshit always trotted out? Do people get a handbook of "witty retorts" for when they want to gaslight women or something?

So, what you're saying is that women shouldn't go with their gut instincts just because there may be young boys at risk in a completely different facility as well?

The non abusive men have to be the ones watching out for the boys in the mens toilets, we're not Fox Force Five for toilets.

As for the tedious "not all men" argument, just grow up and stop NAMALTing everywhere. You know as well as I do that child abusers are overwhelmingly men. And until the day they give all paedophiles a big flashing badge to identify them in advance, we have to be wary of the whole class (of men)

No, you were not. I would have done the same. And like you would have felt dissatisfied overall with such a setup, as this is deliberately undermining longstanding and very strong social taboos designed to safeguard women and girls.

On the issue of boys alone in the gents - I still prefer my youngest to go in with his brothers and if that isn't possible, I stand right outside waiting for him (which isn't much, I know, but it is still a safety measure I can take).

However, the power of a testosterone-fuelled puberty being what it is, boys are - from their mid teens onwards - considerably stronger than their female peers. Even though they usually will not be stronger than a fully grown male, many predators seek out victims they can overpower easily, so risk is marginally reduced for boys in this situation compared to girls of the same age.

By the way, we do actually worry more about boys in this respect than girls. The latter are presumed to be safe in the toilets of their own sex while the former are considered unsafe in the gents. That's why most boys are either taken into the ladies by their mothers or accompanied into the gents by male relatives to keep them safe.

Most patrons are unaware that the toilets are now mixed in many places, that is until they actually need to use the facilities. So, many parents will let their girls go without them, especially if they go together, thinking it's perfectly safe because women typically do look out for younger girls in women's spaces. Well, that was my experience growing up when older women used to chase away any creep wandering in.

I would do the same.

It’s just like if I’m in town or the park etc and I see a young child with no obvious adult about I will stop until I see an adult with them.

not all men are pedophiles though

Nope. But that doesn’t stop the ones who are does it.

And I would have probably tweeted to the venue.

I imagine its quite likely that the parents thought that the girls were using a womans only toilet.

I would have done the same thing.

And I would have explained to the men why I was doing it while I was there so that more people start to realise what a shit show this is.

Decent men don't like making women and girls feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

I would have done the same OP

How did it ever come to this? It’s a giant leap backwards for women and children.

If I am on an evening course, one or two of us will always help the tutor to finish clearing up and walk with her to the carpark. If I give someone a lift home, I wait until they have gone inside.
It's what we do to keep people safe and you shouldn't feel awkward or embarrassed.

Of course boys are just as vulnerable. Younger boys use the ladies with their mothers or are accompanied in the gents by their fathers.
Men go with their older sons as a general rule, however I know I'm not the only mother to have hovered outside the gents while her son used them, ready to go in if he called.

You absolutely did the right thing OP. As KUGA points out, mixed sex toilets are an incident waiting to happen .
Awful to think that they'll only be rolled back after the systematic harassment and abuse of women and girls has escalated unchecked.

Good for you.
I would have done the same.
These Gender Neutral toilets are an incident waiting to happen.
Personally I won`t be using them.
To be honest it makes me feel sick.