Ealing Broadway station toilets

I'm glad (as a very frequent user of this station) that they are finally getting round to installing a lift. It's seriously inaccessible which is not good for a station serving two underground lines and mainline trains as well. It's a shame that toilet provision will be reduced to accommodate it but realistically I don't think there would be anywhere else the lift could go, unless they took away the cornish pasty stand and installed an inflatable slide.

Glad to hear there will still be single sex provision. Good work, those who followed up.

FYI

*Thanks for your call of 21 August about the toilets at Ealing Broadway.

There has been some confusion on the wording used in the original poster that went out to the station. The posters have been reprinted and will be displayed at the station with the correct wording. I’m very sorry for the confusion this has caused.

Please note there will not be and has never been uni-sex toilets at this station/ or TfL rail any station. The female toilets were closed originally to allow the conversion of the facilities into separate male and female toilets.

The access to the male and female toilets has changed, this is to allow works to commence for step free access, and the number of male and female toilets has reduced slightly.

The accessible toilet remains in the same location, but in due course, this will be relocated as well. The dates for this will be announced in due course.

Thank you for continued patience and once again, I’m very sorry for any inconvenience caused.

If there is anything else we can help you with, please reply to this email. Alternatively, you can call us on 0343 222 1234 and we'll be happy to help you.
Kind regards*

just to make it very clear that we're watching and any will vociferously resist any attempts to remove single-sex provision if they so much as consider it.

We're not having it.

It's posts like this that make me feel proud to be a (biological) woman.

Gives me strength, Iyswim?

Just saying

Thanks Hulo

The men's toilets are going to make way for the lifts.

The Disabled toilets remain for mixed-sex disabled access use.
The women's toilets are being stripped out and separate single sex toilet areas (women's and men's) are going to be created. Less facilities all round, but single sex.

So one female toilet will now be divided to cater for three groups?

And do they mean one multi functional mixed sex space or three distinct spaces?

It feels like they are speaking very very carefully so as not to flat-out lie but not be upfront either.

twitter.com/TfL/status/1164161649609256961?s=20

Looks like things are staying single sex but with less provision for all as a result of their building work.
"Hi there, the current female toilet is closed. This will be converted into separate male, female and disabled toilets. The current male toilets are still open, and the current disabled one will become the temporary women's toilet. Both will make way for a lift in due course. -Sol"

I've just looked at the plans and can see the toilets proposed but can't see any existing plans to compare with.

At concourse level there are 6 cubicles in, what I assume will be, the women's loos. Three cubicles and 3 urinals in the men's.

At platform level there are two blocks of loos shown, one with two cubicles and what may be a urinal block but could also be a baby changing area and another block with four cubicles in but is very badly drawn and access into it is not clear.

But also, TFL have confirmed on twitter that provision is staying separated by sex, no plans for mixed.

My local hospital out patient department has made all the toilets mixed sex. I know hospital toilets aren't the most salubrious places, but these are all just like the average gents toilets now.
I had to go in there yesterday and all the seats were left up, piss on the floor and all over the toilets. Male urine stinks.
There are enough to make half male, half female IMO.

Someone on Twitter linked to the tfl complaints line number, 0345 222 1234, so I called and eventually spoke to Steve, who seemed a little nonplussed, and is finding out more. I am phoning back later (I had to go out - on hold for a while).

I've just had a very quick look through the top few documents on that list AnotherNight and I can't see anything relating to the alteration of toilet provision.

Wiser people than me may see something different though!

The plans are here, from 2017. Maybe someone here can read and understand them.

pam.ealing.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OYOZDEJM0DG00

I'm on my phone and can't access Ealing Planning but there should be plans on their planning portal we can look at. I will check tonight at home and report back.

The TfL press office has told at least one person that lifts are being installed where the men's loos currently are so the women's will be split into separate men's and women's.
I'm not sure I buy it as they don't seem to be replying to tweets or making any kind of public statement. But if this is what they start telling people, good to be prepared to ask for more info.
My concern is that, whatever the actual plan is, it doesn't seem to be stated anywhere that there will be separate loos once the lift is installed. 'Male and female toilet facilities' may mean separate loos or it may mean mixed loos, you could argue it either way.

Isn’t this illegal?

Surely it should say 'converting the female toilets into mixed sex facilities.'

Women's toilets are not roomy at the best of times so how r they going to convert them???!!

I think it's worth kicking up a fuss whether it's temporary, just badly worded or whatever just to make it very clear that we're watching and any will vociferously resist any attempts to remove single-sex provision if they so much as consider it.

We're not having it

(Get the men portaloos if they need to)

I called them earlier to confirm and made a formal complaint. The number is: ‭0343 222 1234‬

They don’t know exactly how the toilets will be structured - which is odd as the works are ending next week? The guy on the phone was really sympathetic and lovely, he called Ealing and said the person he spoke to there was also very understanding. I think the more complaints logged the better!

My complaint was twofold - it’s unfair on people with disabilities to share as they currently have limited provisions and the concern over mixed sex toilets.

Ealing Broadway probably doesn’t have any operational male toilets at the moment due to them building a lift there.

How do we contact them to ask whats actually happening?

It looks like there's a lot of building work planned. Mention of modifying the toilets so a lift can be installed.

www.crossrail.co.uk/route/western-section/ealing-broadway-station

Maybe the male toilets are tiny and the ladies are massive, do they're evening out the provision?

I agree, it sounds as though they're making a bit of the ladies area the men's area, rather than creating a mixed sex facility. Unless they've worded it really badly and they are going mixed sex. Which would be a nightmare. Can't see that being popular with the population of Ealing (which has a high number of immigrants, many from conservative religious background).

Well that took me all of 10 seconds to find:

TFL CORPORATE STONEWALL Planning & Development Consultancy 1001\5109330136 01 Jun 2018 2,500.00

content.tfl.gov.uk/tflspend2019p03.pdf

There's probably more but I CBA to search every pdf and csv listed.
tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publications-and-reports/expenditure-over-250#on-this-page-0

I think they are probably just reducing their toilet provision, not going mixed sex

The sign is dated 12-16th Aug, which clearly means that specific facility (previously known as female toilets) will reopen after that (as male and female toilets).

There is no reference to male toilets being closed or changed at all.

I think they are probably just reducing their toilet provision, not going mixed sex. The wording doesn't indicate gender in any way.