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Has any woman here ever been mistaken for a bloke?

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WomanBornNotWorn · 18/08/2019 12:44

I've always been bigger than most other girls / women.

Despite an officially (Gok Wan hah!!) hourglass shape (waist 75% of equal sized hip/shoulders) etc etc etc, no gender confusion and what not, my overall bigliness (I'm the height of the average British bloke so half of them are smaller than me) has always been a potential for problems.

Oversized feet, big jaw, broad shoulders send ... the wrong message.

Never been particularly GNC, just not 'slim, dainty, girly, feminine, flirtatious, hot' and all the rest of that template stuff women are 'supposed to be'.

Each time I've been mis-sexed I remember with a jolt. Where I was, who said what, how I reacted - and what I was wearing. I actually think twice about what I wear in case it triggers an incident. Certain things I shy away from - Lace up shoes, trousers with jackets especially.

It's really rare to be fair, but over a lifetime that's a little collection I'd rather not have in the memory bank.

Does anyone else share this little anxiety?

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Branleuse · 18/08/2019 14:56

My daughter is often misgendered too, but she doesnt care as she says its not important

Branleuse · 18/08/2019 14:54

Yes when ive had short hair i have been frequently misgendered, to the extent a man squared up to me once after he walked into me, then he was all apologetic when he realised i was a woman.
I don't think i have a particularly masculine face, and im quite hourglass, but i think people don't take a lot of information when identifying gender

FookMeFookYou · 18/08/2019 14:47

Yeh a couple of times and like you say I can recall the scenarios exactly... I think the ppl concerned are just absolute twats and even if I stood there with my vagina out they would still say the same. I don't look masculine AT ALL. It's just that I'm tall and cast an imposing figure but I quite like that Grin

Hotterthanahotthing · 18/08/2019 14:40

People don't look properly.My DD had a buzz cut and was assumed to be a boy until it grew back a bit.She is 5'6", has a very deffnatly female body.

MyCatsHat · 18/08/2019 14:33

Yes I do. I did all the time as a child as I was very much a tomboy (sorry not a great term but you know what I mean). As an adult I've always had short hair, and I'm tall with large-ish hands and feet. I often wear feminine things so not then, and I have a big pear-shaped bum of the type I've never seen on a man but if I'm in jeans, boots and a coat people will sometimes use "sir" or "he" if they're not really paying attention.

I sometimes correct them if it matters, but I don't mind. It's a mistake anyone can make, and I've done it too with some men. Now I have a teen DS with long hair and he gets it all the time, despite looking very male in the face and body.

I've often been assumed to be a lesbian, which is fine, or more rudely, a lesbian in denial. I wish I was!

Schwibble · 18/08/2019 14:32

In my first full time job, back in my early twenties, I discovered a group of colleagues were talking about me behind my back and sending each other cartoon drawings of me, saying that I looked like a man, like a drag queen, and that my nickname was Funny Face.

Now in my forties, I've been told by a beautician that I have strong features, and an 'image consultant' that I am 'striking'. Whatever that means.

borntobequiet · 18/08/2019 14:31

Oh and I have been called Sir in school. But have also been called Mum and Nan so probably not important.

AnyFucker · 18/08/2019 14:30

Yes

I am tall, slim, straight up and down body shape and short hair

From the back I have been called "young man" by folk from the older generation

Not bothered in the slightest

TemporaryPermanent · 18/08/2019 14:28

On the phone, aaaaaalll the time. In fact, most of the time unless its someone who knows my name already.

In person, it happened a few times when i was in my 20s and very athletic. Very quickly corrected though. One of those things.

I have PCOS so generally more masculine flavour than is typical about my physical self.

OhMsBeliever · 18/08/2019 14:26

As a child I was often mistaken for a boy which pleased me greatly as I desperately wished to be one.

I recently had my hair cut short and have been called sir or lad a couple of times. Even though I'm 5ft 1 so would be a very short man. I wear t-shirts/hoodies and jeans mainly.

The first time the bloke barely glanced at me and didn't even realise his mistake. I didn't care because it didn't bother me.

The second time the lady called me a young lad, then apologised profusely. I said I didn't care because she called me young. Grin

It really doesn't bother me. I don't get offended. Most people judge on a quick glance, sometimes they get it wrong.

I also have a son with autism who frequently misgenders people, he still hasn't quite figured out she/her he/him and also often calls people "it" as well. So I would hope
most people would be understanding if he got it wrong.

littlewhitething · 18/08/2019 14:25

Once when stopped by police in Regent St. Granted, I was wearing leathers and a bike helmet aside a rather large bike at the time! My crime was only having one L plate (I didn't need them but husband had borrowed bike); this in 1976 when laws were different

MargueritaBlue · 18/08/2019 14:25

I wonder if I have ever mistaken a woman for a man. I am not aware of ever having done so. I don't recall ever doing a double take in the ladies loo or a shop changing room.

I'm really puzzled by the poster who said she had a conversation with a male parent and he still didn't twig. I would have thought hearing a voice and engaging in a mutual interaction would clear any doubt up.

Beamur · 18/08/2019 14:23

As a child, yes. I had short hair and wore trousers a lot.
Not since being an adult.

AnneElliott · 18/08/2019 14:21

Yes as a child. But I was skinny and had a boys haircut.

Elisheva · 18/08/2019 14:20

I am interested in this too. I am regularly called ‘mate’ or ‘sir’ by people who are not really paying attention - so at first glance I must appear masculine. I am tall and broad and I wear hoodies, jeans and boots for the majority of the time. I have long hair but I wear it up. I don’t wear make up. However I have an unmistakably female figure with hips/boobs/bum although it is largely hidden by my clothes. I have always assumed it is overall size that people register and base their assumption on.

DamnItsSevenAM · 18/08/2019 14:16

Quite a bit when I was in my teens and skinny with small breasts and cropped hair. Not so much now, although once when in the ladies toilets dressed as a bloke including impressive fake moustache. But only for a second and then we both laughed about it.

SuzieQ10 · 18/08/2019 14:13

No, but I have mistaken a women for a man before and felt very embarrassed and sorry for it - but didn't want to say that and draw out the situation. I sort of tried to pretend it hadn't happened.

OliviaCat · 18/08/2019 14:08

I do and have: I think just because I have very cropped hair. Otherwise I am just a tubby middle aged woman so I don't know why I come across as manly.

Doesn't bother me at all but DH and I did get some homophobic abuse on the street about a year ago!! We didn't know how to react, it was rather shocking on several levels...!

FormerMediocreMale · 18/08/2019 14:07

When i was younger, teens and twenties, I got mistaken for a boy often. I wore jeans, checked shirts and cap with my hair tucked up.

Im too petit to be mistaken for a man tho now, no matter what i wear.

OneEndedStick · 18/08/2019 14:03

"ell" = bell, grr keyboard

LangCleg · 18/08/2019 14:02

Don't worry: if you don't get it, you don't get it. Jokes aren't funny when explained, y'see.

OneEndedStick · 18/08/2019 14:02

Bloke? No. Primary school age boy? Yep. With my girlfriend as she went to the school to speak with her daughter's teacher, we were in the reception area and 5min after the ell went, a teacher came up from behind and demanded to know why I wasn't heading off to class Grin Poor thing was so apologetic when I turned around to see who she was talking to. Misaged [by about 25 years] and "misgendered", all in one. Surprising I made it out alive really.

MargueritaBlue · 18/08/2019 14:00

(LOL. You're not very good at light humour, are you Marguerita?)

I found it odd that a poster took being mistaken as a man as a compliment. I find it equally odd that you would take being mistaken as a butch lesbian as a compliment.

Was your post meant to be "light - humour" It wasn't remotely obvious. Perhaps you should have "lolled" when you posted.

Echobelly · 18/08/2019 14:00

Not in adult life, but age 6-16 constantly taken for a boy because I had short hair and even post-puberty was not very curvy. I never minded because I liked having short hair and I was aware that people would easily assume I was a boy if I was in trousers so it never offended me.

DD (also short haired) gets the same and also doesn't mind - she does have a much girlier face than me, but I find people these days are even less able to comprehend a short-haired girl than they were in mine.

TileFloors · 18/08/2019 13:58

Frequently when I was about 9 or 10 and had very short hair. I used to like it.

Then I grew massive boobs, and since then, never, no matter what I’m wearing or what my hairstyle is.

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